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        01-05-2012, 01:03 AM
      #11
    Super Moderator
    Actually, when posting, you should be rising from both the knee and the foot. If you rise only from your knee, you may have no anchor into your stirrup, if you rise only from your foot, your knee may rotate out , off the saddle and you will be "jack in the boxing". Smooth contact of leg from thigh to mid calf, is optimal. Your hip will "open and close " because you do lever off you your knee somewhat, but if your weight goes only to the knee and is Pinned against the saddle there, you whole lower leg is pretty useless.

    I like to remember that the ideal is that if your horse disappeared from under you , would you be able to land in a standing position and stick your landing, like a gymnast doing a dismount? If you were standing, in the position of pretenting to be horseback and posting, than what muscles do you use to rise and fall? Aboard the horse it will be pretty close, except that since the space between your legs is not air, you will be pushing more again this mass, and moving mass, rather than air (in your pretend position) and will generate energy in your rebound off of the horse.

    Sorry, I sound like Mr. Science here. One beer with dinner and I'm off and talking . . . . .
         
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        01-05-2012, 01:30 AM
      #12
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    Actually, when posting, you should be rising from both the knee and the foot. If you rise only from your knee, you may have no anchor into your stirrup, if you rise only from your foot, your knee may rotate out , off the saddle and you will be "jack in the boxing". Smooth contact of leg from thigh to mid calf, is optimal. Your hip will "open and close " because you do lever off you your knee somewhat, but if your weight goes only to the knee and is Pinned against the saddle there, you whole lower leg is pretty useless.
    So using this example here: The lower leg is steady and strong, but not stiff since it's letting the energy escape out of her foot. And her ankle isn't stiff either.. it's acting as a shock absorber. She isn't flexing her knee, her hip is leading the post and her knee gives/opens but it doesn't shift or compress.

    So maybe I worded it too simply? But my trainer told me that your lower leg stays with the horse and when you post, you work on letting the horse lift your hips off of the saddle.. not pushing down in the stirrups and rising from your knee.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
         
        01-05-2012, 01:43 AM
      #13
    Super Moderator
    It's those darn semantics, (words, ya know) . I see what you mean. That the lower leg is not moving much. That would be true. But weight still must go down into it. But , like you said, the rider "levers" off of the knee, which is openning and closing (which I would call flexing in my terminology).

    The ankle only flexes inasmuch as is required to absorb some of the impact of the trot.
         
        01-05-2012, 01:55 AM
      #14
    Super Moderator
    Check out this wierd video on using a horse simulator to learn how to post.


    It never trips, never chucks it's head or drops a shoulder or slows down or speeds up unexpectedly or . . .
    But would nt' it be fun to try this gizmo.?
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        01-05-2012, 01:58 AM
      #15
    Showing
    Yes it would be!!! I've always wanted to try and canter one of those, since it would show you the feel without the danger of an unbalanced horse or anything else happening.. so cool.

    Thanks for bearing with me :P yeah words are screwy.. but I understand it a lot better now thanks to you! Like I said.. still learning myself :)

    EDIT: Oh!!!!! And she does 2-point at the end!!!! OP there's a good example of it there!
         
        01-05-2012, 02:06 AM
      #16
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    The instruction is good to listen to. I majorly, majorly suck at two point. LIke a total newbie. I will only do it for super brief periods of time because it feels so weird for me. I know, I need to fill in that hole, but wah, wah wah, . . . I dwanna do it!
         
        01-05-2012, 02:10 AM
      #17
    Showing
    Hahahaha I always crack up laughing when I do it, but I'm getting better! My horse actually prefers it to me posting.. I do too since I can focus on my legs rather than my seat and legs AND rising. But we both love the sitting trot now that I've got it down..

    2-point is tricky though, makes me feel like I'm a flamingo standing on one leg :P

    But it's sooo good for you tinyliny!!!! :P
         
        01-05-2012, 05:49 AM
      #18
    Yearling
    I would say that your lower leg is too far forward and you are losing your balance as you sit. Check where your legs are and try to keep a straight line - shoulder hip heel, but when you start to rise you lean very slightly forward so that you are moving with the forwardness of the movement.

    Make sure that you rise from your knees and not your feet. The rise is a swinging of the hips forward with the lift coming from the knees.
         
        01-05-2012, 02:33 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
    No.. you rise from your hips! Knees stay put. Otherwise you'll have a very weak leg at any gait.





    Yeah, I meant you don't use your lower legs, your lower legs stay off the horses side, and your knees stay on the saddle and you sort of bend from your knees and thighs
         
        01-05-2012, 03:01 PM
      #20
    Foal
    And I'd just like to point out in English riding the lower leg should actually be still at all times, unless you're doing a dressage movement like leg yielding etc.
         

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