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  • Physics of pelvic movement on a horse at a canter

 
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    02-07-2011, 03:37 AM
  #1
Green Broke
staying grounded..help?

I am needing help on staying grounded in the saddle while cantering. I'm not flopping everywhere but slightly get lifted up and feel light. Personally I like the feeling because I feel free on my horse But I told that you want to stay grounded into your saddle and feel the movement of your horse with every rocking move it.You really want to "dig" those seat bones in the saddle or I guess put weight into your seat and follow the horses movement.

Anyways I do follow my horses movement.I just get a bit of air I guess you would say. IS this a bad thing? I see some videos on youtube of people doing the same thing I am doing and some that stay more in the seat...maybe someone can help me understand.
     
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    02-07-2011, 11:23 AM
  #2
Foal
I don't think it's a bad thing and your doing the right thing by moving with the horse, and everyone has there own sort of style, as long as your following the basic rules of canter then I don't think your doing anything wrong, just enjoy the feeling :)
     
    02-07-2011, 01:38 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Oh,really?
     
    02-07-2011, 01:38 PM
  #4
Green Broke
So if I want to keep my horse in a canter I don't have to dig my seat bones into my saddle while goign with the horse's movement?
     
    02-07-2011, 02:21 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
Hi Gidget,

I know what you are describing. You are being nicely lifted into the air when the horse bends it's back , reaches under and when it pushes off with the first stride of the canter, it lifts you upward. It even feels as if the horse is going uphill. The next stide kind of carries forward, then the third stride the horse is stetching further outward, reaching out with the inside front (leading leg) and you feel more "impact" or jounce and the general feeling is of the horse goind "downhill". Then it has a moment of suspension while it coils it;s pelvis under itself and gets ready to reach under with the outside rear leg and push off, which again lifts you into the air. Right?

The only bad thing is if you get lifted and stay lifted while the horse goes down (you get "air" between you and the saddle), when you come back down, the horse is coming up and your butt will collide with his back coming up and impact on the saddle/back, before you are lifted again.
It's like the horse has a sine wave and you have a sine wave (remember physics?) and if they are too offset, then you will be interferein with your horse's movement.

If you go up, get air, and stay up, like in two point or a good "half seat", then it can be a very nice way to ride a canter. Very easy on your horse and very light and adaptable for jumping and such. But if you go up and down on your own rythm, not matching the horse's , then that is the worst.

So, either match your up/down movement to the horse as best as you can (needs very loose pelvis and relaxed legs, sit up straight and go WITH horse) OR, ride in half seat or two point and ride "above" the rythm of your horse.

Does that make any sense?
     
    02-07-2011, 02:37 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Tiny, you made perfect sense. You knew what I was talking about. I was trying to really stay in my seat last night. I was riding out in the field with a few boarders and I occasionally ask for help if I know I am not understanding something..this is how I try and better my riding :) Anyways,I get lifted up. I do go with my horses movement and it's really smooth feeling but I would like to be stuck like glue into my saddle. I would also like to learn to do a 2 point.
I want to better my riding as much as possible. I went to the library and checked out some riding books as well.

Thank you.

I will prob. Work in the roundpen to get better in my seat. I am still trying to teach myself and my horse to do perfect circles independtly as I can only make a perfect circle in the round pen.
     
    02-07-2011, 08:01 PM
  #7
Foal
I'm finally back to cantering again, and I know how you feel. For me, 2-point is a lifesaver. When I get the mare I ride to canter, I start her off with my butt in the saddle, then once she begins, I get into 2-point. After I've found her rhythm (a few strides), I then sit back down again and try to loosen up my hips and legs. If I feel myself getting a little sloppy, or losing balance, I go back to 2-point and start the process again.

Also, I've found it easier to open up my hips if I do some trotting without stirrups for a while before cantering. I also like to stretch my legs out and try not to get to stiff.

Good luck! :)
     
    02-08-2011, 03:16 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Thanks :)

So you mean trotting without stirrups while posting or doing a sitting trot?

Do you have pictures of how to do a 2 point. I guess I can look it up on youtube also.

Glad I'm not the only one!
     
    02-09-2011, 12:50 PM
  #9
Green Broke
It might also help you to settle deeper in the saddle if you think about toes up, rather than heels down. If you are forcing your feet down into your stirrups, it will cause you to bounce around more. If you have access to a roundpen (I think you said you did) and IF you feel balanced enough, try dropping your stirrups at the canter. Without the stirrups to brace against, you can concentrate on following the motion of the canter with your hips, while staying grounded.
     
    02-09-2011, 03:28 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Good idea,good idea!

I think I might go ahead and try that too.
I haven't been able to ride for 2 days but I don't have to work tonight so I think I will give it a go.
     

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