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post #1 of 11 Old 09-03-2013, 12:18 PM Thread Starter
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Red face Stubborn horse, first fall. What am I doing wrong?

So I'm riding on this romanian warmblood which is the third lesson horse I ever rode.
I found out that she has trouble trusting people, but when she finally trusts you, she's a great horse!
Though whenever I trot she keeps holding her head down which I assume is from the fact that she wants to cough, she's doing it a lot!
She spooks easily, when the dog barked she almost reared and went intro an uncontrolled trot which I finally managed to control.
Whenever a horse goes by her, she turns her head and body the other way to avoid it like the horse will eat her or something.
I have been told my position is fine, and I should say I was always confident, I never got scared.
Now, for the fall.
I was casually trotting, my horse was a bit on alert and then this girl was comming from the opposite direction towards me. No problem, one of us turns the horse left to dodge the other. Well, the problem is that we both wanted to go left, and when I realized we're going to bump in eachother I quickly pulled my horse further left, but it was already too late v.v I fell, and with both my arms I grabbed the horse's neck into a 'hug' to hold onto it, so I landed on the ground on my feet. Didn't get hurt or anything, I just got back up like nothing happened. xD
And then the worst part, we, the people, were getting lined up and the horse just wouldn't budge for a good position! Everyone was staring at me like -.- or slightly amused while I finally pulled my horse(Which took a couple minutes) and managed to get it straight.
When she's in the stall she's really nice, but she keeps coughing and I don't know why.
Okay, now for the actual question, what was I doing wrong, and what right? And how can I improve my relationship with this horse?
Sorry for the long post ;D
By the way, I'm a beginner, this was like my 9th or 10th lesson.
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So I'm riding on this romanian warmblood which is the third lesson horse I ever rode.
I found out that she has trouble trusting people, but when she finally trusts you, she's a great horse!
Though whenever I trot she keeps holding her head down which I assume is from the fact that she wants to cough, she's doing it a lot!
She spooks easily, when the dog barked she almost reared and went intro an uncontrolled trot which I finally managed to control.
Whenever a horse goes by her, she turns her head and body the other way to avoid it like the horse will eat her or something.
I have been told my position is fine, and I should say I was always confident, I never got scared.
Now, for the fall.
I was casually trotting, my horse was a bit on alert and then this girl was comming from the opposite direction towards me. No problem, one of us turns the horse left to dodge the other. Well, the problem is that we both wanted to go left, and when I realized we're going to bump in eachother I quickly pulled my horse further left, but it was already too late v.v I fell, and with both my arms I grabbed the horse's neck into a 'hug' to hold onto it, so I landed on the ground on my feet. Didn't get hurt or anything, I just got back up like nothing happened. xD
And then the worst part, we, the people, were getting lined up and the horse just wouldn't budge for a good position! Everyone was staring at me like -.- or slightly amused while I finally pulled my horse(Which took a couple minutes) and managed to get it straight.
When she's in the stall she's really nice, but she keeps coughing and I don't know why.
Okay, now for the actual question, what was I doing wrong, and what right? And how can I improve my relationship with this horse?
Sorry for the long post ;D
By the way, I'm a beginner, this was like my 9th or 10th lesson.
You should always have left shoulder to left shoulder when coming to head on traffic. So if you pulled left then she had to pull right that is what you did wrong. You stated you both went left but if you both went the same way one of you had to go right. Just like driving a car. Now if you are overseas it may be the opposite.
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Okay first thing first, if you are a beginner and this is a lesson horse and not your horse I would probably ask for another horse to ride or go to another barn to take lessons at. It seems to me that the person giving you lessons is not being attentive to your needs or to your level of riding.

2nd-There is ring etiquette for when you ride. Like driving a car one horse has the right of way while the other does not. Your horse should always be on the right side of the ring no matter which direction you are going. And you pass to the inside of the ring. The inside is not closer to the fence but closer to the middle of the ring. You should always call out where you are going, so inside, or outside of the ring.

3rd-I don't think you are doing anything "wrong" about your riding, you are a beginner that has only had 10 lessons, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will you riding ability. There is alot to learn and remember while you ride. Plus you are still learning how to balance correctly while riding.

4th-I don't think at your level of riding, you should be riding without an instructor present when you ride. If your trainer isn't teaching you about ring etiquette or is letting you ride unsupervised when you are very inexperienced then it would be best for you to go to another barn will you will be taught how to ride correctly.
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Okay first thing first, if you are a beginner and this is a lesson horse and not your horse I would probably ask for another horse to ride or go to another barn to take lessons at. It seems to me that the person giving you lessons is not being attentive to your needs or to your level of riding.

2nd-There is ring etiquette for when you ride. Like driving a car one horse has the right of way while the other does not. Your horse should always be on the right side of the ring no matter which direction you are going. And you pass to the inside of the ring. The inside is not closer to the fence but closer to the middle of the ring. You should always call out where you are going, so inside, or outside of the ring.

3rd-I don't think you are doing anything "wrong" about your riding, you are a beginner that has only had 10 lessons, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will you riding ability. There is alot to learn and remember while you ride. Plus you are still learning how to balance correctly while riding.

4th-I don't think at your level of riding, you should be riding without an instructor present when you ride. If your trainer isn't teaching you about ring etiquette or is letting you ride unsupervised when you are very inexperienced then it would be best for you to go to another barn will you will be taught how to ride correctly.
I understood that they were coming head on not passing in the same direction?
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Here is a list of reasons why this is a poor choice for a beginner's or even intermediate's lesson horse. Plus she sounds like she has heaves.
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(I) found out that she has trouble trusting people...
(2) Though whenever I trot she keeps holding her head down...
(3) She spooks easily,
(4) when the dog barked she almost reared and went intro an uncontrolled trot
(5) Whenever a horse goes by her, she turns her head and body the other way to avoid it like the horse will eat her or something.
(6) we, the people, were getting lined up and the horse just wouldn't budge for a good position!
(7) When she's in the stall...she keeps coughing...

You don't need to apologize for the length of your post. You wrote it well and explained your problem succinctly.
Here are the reasons why this place is a poor riding academy, or, really a boarding barn masquerading as a lesson facility.
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So I'm riding on this romanian warmblood which is the third lesson horse I ever rode.
(I) (after the fall) Everyone was staring at me like -.- or slightly amused while I finally pulled my horse(Which took a couple minutes) and managed to get it straight.

It is cruel to be amused at anyone's fall off of a horse, or, possible trip the ER. Horses are 10x our size and every one of us, if we keep horses long enough will be hurt. Fortunately, I survived getting kicked one inch above my eye--just 15 stitches--, and getting thrown 9 feet in the air--a broken humorous which healed clean. I have owned/trained horses for 28 years.
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Now, for the fall.
I was casually trotting, my horse was a bit on alert and then this girl was coming from the opposite direction towards me. No problem, one of us turns the horse left to dodge the other. Well, the problem is that we both wanted to go left, and when I realized we're going to bump in eachother I quickly pulled my horse further left, but it was already too late v.v I fell, and with both my arms I grabbed the horse's neck into a 'hug' to hold onto it, so I landed on the ground on my feet. Didn't get hurt or anything, I just got back up like nothing happened. xD
I have been told my position is fine, and I should say I was always confident, I never got scared.
Okay, now for the actual question, what was I doing wrong, and what right? And how can I improve my relationship with this horse?
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By the way, I'm a beginner, this was like my 9th or 10th lesson.
YOU were not wrong. This is a manuever done by drill teams. Drill team leaders work very hard and go slowly so that everyone knows where they are riding at all times, and the team works hard communicating with other team members. You didn't sign up for this, and are NOT experienced enough to know which way to go. Neither was the other rider.
THIS place doesn't know what they are doing. Your mistake was to sign up for lessons there. Go visit other riding academies in your area and find one that knows how to teach beginners safely. This place is dangerous. I wouldn't want to ride in their lessons, and I use to ride in CW Reenactments where you can make mistakes and get hurt.
Btw, if you were closer I'd be happy to give you a few lessons. (I taught for 10 years.)

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Actually, I'm not afraid of the horse and I feel safe on it.
And we are actually supervised by 2 instructors and some guy that helps around the barn while we ride.
And yes I pulled left and she pulled right, we were near the fence.
And they didn't stare at me when I fell, but when I had to get the horse in some position to get off of it.
I like being pushed, like learning to control a stubborn horse like this, and earn it's trust, so I'm probably not going to be switching barns anytime soon. There are only 2 in my area and this is the best out of the two, and to be perfectly honest, I love it there! The people are friendly and I feel safe ;D
I'm sorry for not putting enough detail in my post.
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For anyone else considering lessons, this is an example of a poor lesson horse, and a poor lesson/activity. I would not have done this exercise with my students. Sometimes, when I had a class of two--I only owned 5 lesson horses at a time--I would play a mirror game, where one was the rider and the other the mirror. They had to remain 1/2-way away from each other in the arena at all times. There are many more ways to teach correct arena rules.
To the OP, enjoy.

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Actually, I'm not afraid of the horse and I feel safe on it.
And we are actually supervised by 2 instructors and some guy that helps around the barn while we ride.
And yes I pulled left and she pulled right, we were near the fence.
And they didn't stare at me when I fell, but when I had to get the horse in some position to get off of it.
I like being pushed, like learning to control a stubborn horse like this, and earn it's trust, so I'm probably not going to be switching barns anytime soon. There are only 2 in my area and this is the best out of the two, and to be perfectly honest, I love it there! The people are friendly and I feel safe ;D
I'm sorry for not putting enough detail in my post.
Being pushed and challenged is one thing, but riding this kind of horse (spooks etc) should be reserved for someone with more experience. You need to be on a more quiet horse to learn. Nt only it's dangerous to yourself, but also to others sharing the ring.
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I'm going slightly off the current topic to talk about the fact that this horse keeps coughing- you need to tell someone about that and the vet needs to come take a look. It does sound like heaves, but the owner of the horse needs to know and the horse really shouldn't be ridden until you figure out what it is.

It sounds like you are a confident rider, and that's great, but you do need more horse time: even I wouldn't feel safe on a horse that spooked all the time like that.
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I agree with Ninamebo. This horse needs to be looked at by a vet. The coughing is not good. It's this horse breathing heavily?
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