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post #11 of 18 Old 07-11-2010, 06:04 PM
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A clarification, no offense intended: I don't say to grip with thighs, I agree with Sarahver. To achieve a deep, independent seat is what you want; the human anatomy must change over time to be able to have this. So it's not instant "there, my toes are in right spot!"
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post #12 of 18 Old 07-11-2010, 06:36 PM
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Thanks everyone.

I don't now if this will help much or not, but here are some pictures.

The first 2 pictures were from todays show, and the last one is from 2008.

Your legs are too long. You are not able to maintain a quiet seat with the plevic region having so much freedom. Your leg should be similiar to the one in the photograph.
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I rode at a reining barn for awhile and to be honest, heels down in western are not as big a deal as in English. Just no toes down of course!! Also, no it is not "totally acceptable" to ride with your toes out like that. I had the same problem and I took the advice of a friend to sit pidgieon toed when not on a horse. After a few months of conciously sitting with my toes pointing inwards when not on a horse I saw a big improvement. It sounds silly, I know but it's worth a shot.
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^^Really? Because my reining instructor out of all of my 6 instructors (one for each discipline) is the one who picks on it the most.

I've never thought to practice while not sitting on a horse:) I'll try it!!
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Your legs are too long. You are not able to maintain a quiet seat with the plevic region having so much freedom. Your leg should be similiar to the one in the photograph.
My legs get real stiff and cramp when I have them any shorter, I even have to drop them one hole for trail riding/long rides...

Could it be my overall position?
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My legs get real stiff and cramp when I have them any shorter, I even have to drop them one hole for trail riding/long rides...

Could it be my overall position?
i would guess then you neeed to relax your seat more (after shortening the stirrups) and just put your weight into them, pretend all your tightness is draining out through your heals...It sometimes helps me, but i ride english, so maybe its different, haha.

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Honest Pro, my reining trainer cared more giving the correct cues then whether your heels were down. I'm not saying heels down is taboo or anything, just pointing out that an emphasis on heels being shoved down as far as possible (as my jumping trainer later in life demanded) isn't the norm. I do see lots of riders who ride both with heels very low but on the other hand many who ride pretty much strictly western have feet that are closer to level I guess you could say.

Just because an excersise isn't on a horse doesn't mean it can't help :)
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My legs get real stiff and cramp when I have them any shorter, I even have to drop them one hole for trail riding/long rides...

Could it be my overall position?
As was stated....relax your seat. Stand in the stirrups, tighten you abs and butt muscles and sit down. Now just relax, let the calves support your knees and thighs. Allow your ankle to be supple.

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