Trainer doesn't have a lesson horse?

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    10-02-2012, 10:47 PM
Trainer doesn't have a lesson horse?

Ok, I'll start off with my background. I was taught to ride (western equitation) by a team of CHA certified instructors (informal lessons after work) in southern CA, and now, 4 years later, I teach beginner lessons at a barn in Northern, CA. I am a confident rider and studying for my CHA certification this spring (shooting for level 3). I have always been interested in riding english. Something about it, I don't know. I just want to know! So, I have been researching instructors in the area, and I have one option within 100 miles. I called and talked to her, she charges $35 an hour but does not currently have a lesson horse. I have access to horses at the barn where I teach, but they are all western and trail horses. There is one horse that has some background in jumping. Do you guys think this would work? I know it isn't ideal, but consider my options. She said she has been teaching lessons since she was 14 (does not qualify you, and I am concerned whether what I will be learning will be correct) and has shown "dressage, jumping, you know". And she teaches at a local rodeo grounds. (not necessarily a bad thing) What do I do, though?! Do I drive even farther away? I definitely want to have an instructor. I guess I could go for one lesson and check it out. Sorry for the long post!
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    10-02-2012, 10:56 PM
I would take 1 or 2 lessons & see how you like it. But I would seriously urge you to find someone w/actual qualifications if you seriously want to ride english.
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    10-02-2012, 11:00 PM
Also an intructor should have their own lesson horse. But depending how serious you are ie: showing ect. You may wind up wanting your own english going mount..
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    10-02-2012, 11:07 PM
Thanks Jump4Joy92. That's what I am thinking. There is an instructor (who has friesians btw) about 3 hours away that has the qualifications I am looking for. Melissa Fischbach, who is certified by the ARIA, CDRA, BHS, and a qualified rider by the CA Dressage Society @ 4th level.

But 3 hours! My goodness. I guess that's what I would have to do.
    10-02-2012, 11:09 PM
So, you'd trailer a horse from your barn to her? Or she'd come to your barn? Ask her for references.

Around here, there are many more english trainers than western. What is CHA?
    10-02-2012, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jump4Joy92    
Also an intructor should have their own lesson horse. But depending how serious you are ie: showing ect. You may wind up wanting your own english going mount..
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I've been training horses and riders for over 40 years. I do NOT provide lesson horses, either. I have enough students who have their own horses that I prefer not to have the added insurance demand or the horse upkeep expenses.
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    10-02-2012, 11:13 PM
Yes, I would trailer a horse from my barn to a local public rodeo arena about 30-45 minutes away. Around here there are many western trainers, but english in general is hard to come by. CHA is the Certified Horsemanship Association - a 1 week clinic testing your ability to ride and teach. Certifies instructors at one of 4 levels.
    10-02-2012, 11:14 PM
It takes instructors more than just deciding "I want to teach" to have lesson horses. You either need a personal horse or two you can trust in such situations, or give lessons to those with their own horse until you can establish a large enough client base to make up for the purchase of a school horse. Even very exceptional instructors need to start small in some situations. I do not think I would pass on an instructor simply because they don't have a lesson horse.

I agree that you should go for a lesson or two and see how you like it. Ask questions and take her instruction with a grain of salt of you are leery of her credentials. Good luck!
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    10-02-2012, 11:17 PM
I know a number of instructors that don't have horses, but those either contract with a barn and use those horses or focus mostly on training and travel around a bit to teach people on their own horses.

Something about what you're saying makes me question her credibility as an instructor. Does she actively show? Does she attend clinics to improve on her own skills? She might be okay for a real beginner that doesn't have a seat or balance established but since you're already accomplished, just not in that discipline, I really question if she would be a good match.
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    10-02-2012, 11:38 PM
Generally (in my area) it isn't expected of individual trainers to have lesson horses unless they are working specifically out of a training stable. That said, she doesn't seem like the best instructor out there. How old is she? I don't believe anybody is really 'capable' of teaching at such a young age, because they tend to lack the ability to guide riders in a way that is suitable for their abilities. In my experience that tends to follow into their adulthood teachings. Not that this is true for all trainers who started young, just those that I have personally experienced. In addition to the information you've given, unless you've just summed things up and the casual / carelessness I'm reading of her is just a miscommunication, she seems, to me, like one of those types.

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