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Two Point Vs "Jumping Position"

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        02-18-2011, 10:37 AM
    Originally Posted by ErikaLynn    
    I don't understand can you be in a chair seat in the 2-point when you aren't even sitting on your butt?
    *i think* that you are just sitting on your butt....which is no position I know !
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        02-18-2011, 11:49 AM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
    Two point can look like a bit of a chair seat, since the front of the pelvis isn't touching the saddle.
    What is the purpose of this and at what point would you use it?

    To truly understand the seats I think we need to not only be able to label them (however you end up defining them) but also understand why they work and at what point you use them.

    MIE- Good pics! Definitely what I call a full seat as well. What you call a "3 point" is what I've heard of as a light seat. Regardless of what we call it, I think we are discussing the same thing.
        02-18-2011, 02:25 PM
    Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
    MIE isnt it really the position of the pelvis that is different [as oppossed to saying just the upper body - I think we are saying the same thing here, but I think it originates at the tilt of the pelvis] ? If the pelvis is tilted forward slightly your upper body will go forward slightly and there will be slightly more weight on your pubis that your seat bones, but still weight on all three.
    Very true gypsy, great point! I'm sitting here adjusting my seat while I sit in my recliner, and you're right. I can move my upper body forward and still have my 3 points in contact with the chair. Yet, when I lift my seat bones up and put most of my weight onto my pelvic bone, my upper body follows, or I extremely hollow out my lower back *yuck*

    Speaking of which - what are the reasonings of the rider, when we see a hollowed out lower back? I do not see how this is functional at all?

    MIE- Good pics! Definitely what I call a full seat as well. What you call a "3 point" is what I've heard of as a light seat. Regardless of what we call it, I think we are discussing the same thing.
    Great points too Upnover! I agree, I too think we are talking about the same thing.
        02-18-2011, 09:08 PM
    I would say a weak core and/or a rider who is very stiff and trying to force a position.
        02-25-2011, 04:58 PM
    Green Broke
    I think some people don't actually realize that they are hollowing out their back, or are more naturally apt to have an arch in it.

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