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        05-05-2013, 12:23 AM
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    western to english help!

    So I've been riding for 8 years now and the past four years I've been riding western and doing games but before I did English. I remember the basics but not really as much as I'd like to remember! My friend who rides western with me is graduating high school and she wants to join the riding team at her college, which is great! The only problem is that its all English riding and she has never touched an English saddle in her 6 years of riding! I consider both of us fairly experienced and well-rounded riders, but we need some help lol. My friend is kind of counting on me to teach her some English skills at the barn while she rides my horse ( my horse is the only one that the English girth fits). We started on Thursday with her just getting used to my horse who she has only ridden a few times before, and the feel of the English saddle. Obviously she felt awkward because of the short English irons but that's something she will get used to. She seems to be struggling posting because my horse has a quick trot that my friend can't seem to get into the rhythm of while on the correct diagonal. So I basically want to know if there are any tips I could give her to maybe strengthen her balance and seat? I just want her to feel comfortable. Btw finding an English trainer to help her out at the barn is not an option haha. Thanks! Any tips on helping her transition at all would be greatly appreciated :)
         
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        05-06-2013, 10:17 AM
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    Heya! I have had ab it of eexperience with western, but I'm an english rider, going from enligh to western is a strange transition, I think its a little intimdating through not having the saftey of the large western saddles. But try these things just to see if it helps?

    Your stirups shouldn't be that much shorter from western, if your measuring them by holding your hand on the buckle and making sure the end ofthe stirrup iorn is in your arm pit, if your already doing this maybe start riding a little long just 1 whole just to get used to the horse then shorten them up, this will be harder on you as to keep your position with your legs, from what I know western you throw your legs forward slightly, english keep them underneath you.

    As for a fast trot, make the horse slow down this maybe as they are getting over excited I understand some horses do have a fast trot I ride a large thourough bred and he could run circles around the smaller horses but you have to slow them down try half halting making the trot slower, this way your transitions will be more comfortable so your rising trot (posting) and sitting trot will feel more comfortable and more like your used to.

    I think also the thing to remember is that the basics are pretty much the same keeping your positon so shoulders, elbows, hips and heel all in line and keep those heels down. Also try if you or your friend cannot get on a english saddle all the time, work with shorter stirrups in a western saddle, I know odd.

    I hope it helps! Good Luck with the college team!
         
        05-06-2013, 10:22 AM
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    Heya! I have had ab it of eexperience with western, but I'm an english rider, going from enligh to western is a strange transition, I think its a little intimdating through not having the saftey of the large western saddles. But try these things just to see if it helps?

    Your stirups shouldn't be that much shorter from western, if your measuring them by holding your hand on the buckle and making sure the end ofthe stirrup iorn is in your arm pit, if your already doing this maybe start riding a little long just 1 whole just to get used to the horse then shorten them up, this will be harder on you as to keep your position with your legs, from what I know western you throw your legs forward slightly, english keep them underneath you.

    As for a fast trot, make the horse slow down this maybe as they are getting over excited I understand some horses do have a fast trot I ride a large thourough bred and he could run circles around the smaller horses but you have to slow them down try half halting making the trot slower, this way your transitions will be more comfortable so your rising trot (posting) and sitting trot will feel more comfortable and more like your used to.

    I think also the thing to remember is that the basics are pretty much the same keeping your positon so shoulders, elbows, hips and heel all in line and keep those heels down. Also try if you or your friend cannot get on a english saddle all the time, work with shorter stirrups in a western saddle, I know odd.

    I hope it helps! Good Luck with the college team!
         
        05-06-2013, 10:54 AM
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    If this is anything like the ride I saw (and who I swear you are lol), her irons need to go down another hole and she needs to sit up on her seat bones more and not on her ass. Along with that, her leg will come back under herself more and she should be able to balance and feel a lot better.

    So..as for that, have her sit twice and then post on the correct diagonal. She'll probably have to look down, which is perfectly fine because I still do it (don't ride english, but I have to post my mare's trot for now).

    And as for the pony (who I swear we're talking about, lol), the fast trot is all she has. Fast is her slow..she can go much faster at a trot. So basically she has the short, choppy pony strides.

    But back to posting..take her stirrups away. She's most likely (for sure if we're talking the same person..lol) posting off her stirrups, which is wrong. She needs to post with her thighs with the horse's movement.

    Anywho..that's my piece for the moment since I have to make a call. Apologies if you're a completely different person than I think you are, lol. The advice (with my blabber filtered out) is the same though. (:
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