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    08-19-2008, 10:02 AM
Good luck with your lesson-i love your questions and all the responses-it really helps me too-i am more a "feely" kind of person-i can read it all day but until I feel the horse do it I don't seem to catch on- then the light comes on-ahhhh that's what you mean-
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    08-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Well, handily enough I did leg yielding with Darcy today ^^ With Charlie, you can kind of go on autopilot, but with Darcy you have to be much more aware of what you're doing. So knowing all this is really helpful because it stops me from accidentally telling him to do something other than what I want!

I only had half of the large outdoor arena, so I was leg yielding from the 3/4 line to the wall heading down the long side, which was 30m. At first he was pretending not to get the idea, but once I reinforced my leg with my seat he was zipping across! So I guess that answers the 'does Darcy listen to your bum' question.

I paid attention to his shoulders and they weren't bulging in either direction, and my instructor said the turns were fine. :) It's weird looking down; I don't normally do it at all apart from a glance for my diagonal. My seat was also much better than the last time she saw me ride (I haven't had a lesson with her in a few weeks) and my lower leg is better and aids are clearer. I don't confuse Darcy by, say, asking for a turn in one direction and squeezing with my leg to make him go the other way.

So all the info you've all given me is really helping out! Thank you! And I'm glad it's interesting for you too, Kirsti :)
    08-19-2008, 01:43 PM
Originally Posted by claireauriga
Just to check I've understood this (thank you so much for your help!) - inside leg on the girth asks him to bend around that leg, that's why I put my leg there in a turn. If I was asking him to bend around that leg and he was instead throwing his shoulder out, which is very naughty, stronger aids with that leg would tell him to behave, and if he didn't, flexing his neck to the inside means his shoulder can't bulge in unless he's some sort of dragon with a snakelike neck. And keeping the outside rein open allows him to get back into place
First of all, you're welcome!! I'm glad the lessons have gone well for you and it sounds like you're really improving! As far as your question goes, yes that is all correct. The only thing is that you should change the word I bolded ^ to "in," because if he's bulging his shoulder out, then the correction would be different from the one you described. You probably meant that, but just want to clear it up!
    08-21-2008, 02:59 PM
JillyBean, your advice helped me a lot today! I was riding a new horse, Maddie, who needs a much stronger contact - the difference I felt was huge! - and my instructor had me riding circles centred on X so I had no walls to help me! She was a very forward horse and paid a lot of attention to leg and contact. Riding the circles, I had to keep a strong inside leg and good contact on both reins to keep the shape of the circle. Coming out of canter she had a tendency to fall in, so my instructor had me watching her head: if she glanced to the outside her shoulder was falling in, so I had to correct with my inside rein. Because of everything you've explained to me, I was able to understand the way she was moving much better.

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