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        03-03-2011, 09:37 AM
    Whats the footing like ? Any change in the footing ?
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        03-03-2011, 10:58 AM
    Footing in the arena is the same, outside it has been icy and hard but it's been melting a little more recently so he could have gotten into trouble messing around in the field.

    Tiny, yeah it is similar to that. We are fine approaching the jump, he is not on his forehand at all. Nice, loose and looking to the jump and then as soon as he lands his head goes down to his knees like he is going to start bucking.
        03-06-2011, 10:11 AM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by ErikaLynn    
    He could be using his neck to balance over the jump...instead of using his hind end to push up over the jump, he is throwing his neck down to gain balance and momentum over the fence.

    Why don't you try gymnastics with him.

    What ErikaLynn wrote was my first thought. I worked with a TB that was like this. Fairly fit and learning to balance and be supple on the flat but when you introduced jumps he didn't know what to do with this body. So he'd jump and on the landing throw his head straight down. Yes, when he was fresh there could be a buck in there (or if he was upset about something) but he wasn't trying to buck. And stretching down had nothing to do with it. It was from not knowing "how" to jump and then landing in a heap on the backside since he wasn't sure what to do with his body over the fence. Lots and lots and lots of gymnastics was what eventually taught him how to use his body and be more balanced through the jumps. Bounces, using poles ~9 ft before and after a single fence, etc etc. If we did singles I always did something after the jump like a transition, circle, leg yields... just something to get him to balance up afterwards. He was just more awkward with jumping. Eventually he got better and learned how to use his body.
        03-06-2011, 10:14 AM
    Green Broke
    Another thing to consider is back pain. Make sure you aren't hitting him in the back over the fence (esp if he's jumping awkwardly, might very easily happen) or your saddle doesn't do something over the fence either.
        03-06-2011, 10:32 AM
    If he's fitter has he changed shape much? Might be worth looking at his saddle??

    If just balance then I'd suggest poles on lunge moving to raised poles then small jumps follwed by the same under saddle then some grid work. Btb!
        03-07-2011, 02:22 PM
    You could also try and see what he does when you put jump a ground pole before and a pole after the jump. This could help in gymnasticizing him, and with the pole behind the jump, would "remind" him to pick his head up again.

    I would also try to jump some in&out lines with him. (That's what we call them in Germany - sorry, I don't know the English term). It's a jump after a jump without any strides in between. Keep them moderately low and start with cross rails for those!

    I hope any of those help! It is def. What I would try - even if it is just to analyze what is going on :)
        03-07-2011, 10:53 PM
    Is he getting enough of a release over the fence? Maybe he's just trying to get less contact?

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