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post #1 of 8 Old 08-30-2011, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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Will turned out toes take points off in competition?

When i ride and push my heels down my toes turn out. i havent started competing yet but when i do i'm worried i'll get points off for bad form. if it won't is it something i should still worry about?
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What are you planing to compete in?
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Firstly, Welcome to the Forum!!

Your toes should point the way that they naturally point when you're just standing. Most people's feet don't naturally point straight ahead when you're standing relaxed. That natural toe-ing out shouldn't affect your score, or, more importantly, your riding. ;)

That being said, gripping too much or incorrectly in the saddle can cause your toes to stick out too much. When that happens, you're using the back of your leg rather than the inside against the horse, and your toes will stick almost straight out to the side. You can tell whether you have this problem by looking at your riding boots, pants, or half-chaps to see where grime accumulates. If it's down the inside of the leg, great! If it's down the back of your leg, you know what to focus on. A correctly positioned leg is not only going to get you a better score, no matter what discipline, but will make you a more effective rider overall.

If you do have excessively turned-out toes, remind yourself to keep your joints relaxed, especially your hips, knees, and ankles. Don't force your heels down, but let your weight carry them down. You want to feel like your heels are the heaviest part of your body. If the rest of your leg is positioned correctly, your toes will fall into a natural angle for your conformation.

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What are you planing to compete in?
i want to jump or cross country
maybe dressage too
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post #5 of 8 Old 08-30-2011, 07:34 PM
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Show jumping and cross country are not judged events, but use a "fault" system. By having a rail down, you get 4 faults. Four rails down would give you 16 faults.

So no, your toes pointing out will not make you lose points.

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i didnt know if you were judged on form in jumping. in some research i had done i found that hunter jumpers were judged on form so i didnt know
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Hunters are judged on form and looks, show jumpers (and that part of eventing) are not.
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And to be more precise, the rider's form is only judged in equitation classes, not in hunter under saddle or over fences. The horse's form, manners and way of going are judged in the hunters.

In dressage, there is a collective mark for the rider's position and effectiveness of aids. "Collective" mark means the score is multiplied, in most tests by a factor of 2, in Pony Club tests, by a factor of 3, so you do want to maximize that mark.
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