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    09-27-2009, 07:03 PM
Is it worth it?

I am a western rider, but I have been wanting to try English. I found a used English saddle at a local tack store for a hundred dollars. It is a 13" brown leather. Does the underside supposed to have fleece lining? Or just leather? The underside of western saddles have fleece. The skirting seems a little worn, but there are no major tears or anything. It come with fenders and stirrup irons.

It is worth the money? And secondly, how do you measure how long the stirrups need to be? I have a good feeling it's not the same as western xD Thanks much!!!
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    09-27-2009, 07:21 PM
No Normally They're Just Leather Lined! Or Synthetic Stuff If You've A Synthetic Saddle:)
Does It Fit Your Horse? You Should Get A Saddler Out To Double Check!
Your Correct Stirrup Length For English If Your Checking From The Ground Is Put Your Hand In A Fist And Put It Up To The Top Of The Stirrup Buckle And The Stirrup Should Come To Your Arm Pit. Hope That Makes Sense!
If Your Checking The Stirrups When Your On The Horse Generally The Stirrups Come To About Your Ankles:)
Good Luck Riding English
    09-27-2009, 08:04 PM
Green Broke
Are you sure it's a 13"? Most adults fit in a 16" or above. I use a 17.5" personally
    09-27-2009, 08:09 PM
XLaurenOscarx has it right, but I may be able to add a little.

A 13 inch English saddle is TEENY, but English saddles are measured differently than westerns. Measure from one of the buttons on either side of the pommel to the center of the cantle, and the number of inches is the seat size. As a GENERAL rule, your English size will be about 2 inches larger than your western (Ex. I'm comfy in a 14 inch western, but a 16-16.5 inch English). Also, it's more thigh length than rear-end size that counts in English saddles. I'm not sure about the "rule" for that one (maybe just thigh length in inches = saddle seat in inches? At least for me, that correlates. Someone else probably remembers...), but the thigh length is measured from the hip-bone to the center of your kneecap.

Beware cheap saddles! Is there a brand on the underside of the flap, or around the front dee-ring area? Look for a name that you recognize. Non-brand saddles can have really poor quality trees or other construction problems that can cause harm or discomfort. A lot aren't really well set up to position the rider correctly, either. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a good quality, more expensive saddle, used. Or, you can go with a Wintec if you don't mind synthetics. I'm researching them right now, and have had almost totally positive feedback from lots of review sites, plus posts on this forum.

A pro saddle fitter would be ideal, to ensure the best possible fit for your horse, but if you're like me, fitters with any more competency than my horse owning friends and neighbors are few and far between. Another pro for the Wintec, IMHO. With a little knowledge about correct fit, you can adjust the Wintec yourself, to a degree.

Is it worth it?? Without seeing it, and assuming it's one of the cheap, poorly made saddles that circulate around, I would say no. A brand name or pictures would be helpful.

EDIT: Sorry, eventerdrew, we posted @ the same time... ;)
    09-27-2009, 09:44 PM
Green Broke
I second (or third) that if it is an English size it probably won't fit you.

English saddles are not meant to have fleece on them. I believe that while Western saddles use saddle pads and such for padding, English saddles have built in flocking. Always get your saddle fitted if its a flocking saddle. Often with second hand saddles the flocking has compacted over they years. Also check the width of your horse.

I agree with what Scoutrider said about the wintecs - you can generally pick up a pretty cheap on second hand and adjust it yourself - although often the flocking needs to be adjusted in there as well. Actually I once had a flock Wintec and had problems with it, when I bought out an independent saddle fitter he said the flocking was dodgy and pulled it all out. Something about hospital fluff or something - it was long time ago. In the end though a bad fitting saddle can cause lots of trouble.

Stirrups - in riding school I think they taught us to make a fist, put that at the bar and the stirrup should go to the elbow. I never ride in that length though - I have longer for dressage and shorter for SJ - so just check what feels okay, but start at that length. When your feet are out of the stirrups I believe they should hit your ankle bone.
    09-28-2009, 01:09 PM
In The Windtec Saddles ( Well In My Wintec Anyway) They Have No Flock In Them. Its Just Compressed Air.
    09-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Thanks for the help guys =] Well, the paper sign said it was a 13", but it looked bigger than that to me. I will look for a brand name and they should let me take pictures of it. I will mold a hanger to fit around my horse's withers and see if the saddle will even fit.

I am going to see if it is even still, there, and if I can get pictures, I will gladly post them for you all to see. =]
    09-29-2009, 12:48 AM
Normally english saddles are not fleece lined.

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