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    07-06-2013, 01:30 AM
  #31
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I can say MM had some issues that didn't really thrill me, but I dang sure learned to ride, and what I learned has kept me in the saddle more than once. If you do decide to go to MM, just do be ready to learn to ride, because they are serious about it. No they don't have a lot of "turn out" time, but once you are able to handle those rides, you will be able to ride anything. So, lack of turn out can actually be a benefit to you as a rider.
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    07-09-2013, 11:32 AM
  #32
Yearling
I went to MM. In my area, you can't learn anything above keeping your heels down. When I graduated, I was hired as a fox hunting/ polo pony trainer in Georgia. $550 a week salary, housing and insurance came with the job. When I started looking to progress my résumé, I had all expense paid interviews in Texas, Wisconsin, Washington state and Arizona.

The only reason my career was put on hold was because I became pregnant and I put family life ahead of my career. The people whom I attended MM with have gone on to ride for Olympic competitors or have started their own successful facilities. One of them recently rode a horse right into the aqha hall of fame.

The school is not for everyone. It's an extremely hard and physically demanding school. But as stated before, once you learn how to ride a Manor horse, you can ride just about anything.

We had a horse who Parelli said needed to be put down because he was so vicious. The owner took him to MM instead and he turned into a 5ft jumper.

There are downsides to MM. There are always downsides to a collage. I attended MM a while ago so I don't know how the program has changed.

Although I'm not training for cash anymore, I frequently get questions about injury advice, training advice and other inquiries that I wouldn't have been able to answer if I didnt get my start at MM.

I enjoyed the school but it is not for everyone. By the time I left I was jumping 4ft for interviews and trained a horse to do canter half pass, all from my humble start of being a western trail rider who couldn't ride a buck to save her life.
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    07-09-2013, 11:58 AM
  #33
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To add, MM does not have a "no hit" rule, last time I checked. They teach you how to discipline the horse in a way it understands, not in a way just the human understands. There were plenty of times I've seen a horse laced or have laced a horse myself for dangerous behavior. It's all in the timing and application of the discipline.

They teach you degree of pressure based on behavior. Not every bad act is equally punishable by the same pressure, and they teach that.

They will correct for over punishment. And yes, they do teach you how to maneuver the horse without touching it. That's how I taught my horse (who was given to me because she was so dangerous on the ground and in saddle) to safely be lead by my 4 year old, willing and ready and quiet.

The program requires patience to understand and grow in its knowledge, but once you understand, it's gold.

I've not known of a place who wouldn't hire someone because they are from MM. I never ran into that problem while interviewing and I was accepting interviews all over the country. I'm sure they are out there though. I know of someone who won't hire anyone from Findley college or Hocking college, so they are out there.
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    07-10-2013, 10:20 PM
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To add, MM does not have a "no hit" rule, last time I checked. They teach you how to discipline the horse in a way it understands, not in a way just the human understands. There were plenty of times I've seen a horse laced or have laced a horse myself for dangerous behavior. It's all in the timing and application of the discipline.

They teach you degree of pressure based on behavior. Not every bad act is equally punishable by the same pressure, and they teach that.

They will correct for over punishment. And yes, they do teach you how to maneuver the horse without touching it. That's how I taught my horse (who was given to me because she was so dangerous on the ground and in saddle) to safely be lead by my 4 year old, willing and ready and quiet.

The program requires patience to understand and grow in its knowledge, but once you understand, it's gold.

I've not known of a place who wouldn't hire someone because they are from MM. I never ran into that problem while interviewing and I was accepting interviews all over the country. I'm sure they are out there though. I know of someone who won't hire anyone from Findley college or Hocking college, so they are out there.
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Thank you very much for your input :)
I think that from what I have heard on here, despite all the bad things said about it, I definitely would like to go there now :)
     
    07-11-2013, 02:37 PM
  #35
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Has anyone heard of or taken a course there? If so what are your thoughts on the place?
I cannot speak of myself as i've never been, however both my barn manager and farrier attended and have nothing but poor things to say. FWIW....this is just "word of mouth" since I have no experience myself.
     
    07-12-2013, 12:16 AM
  #36
Trained
I've heard nothing but horror stories from people come out of this place.
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    07-12-2013, 10:08 AM
  #37
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MM must have really changed since I was there. I had a really good experiance with it. I think it's a "to each his own" type thing. Either it's for you or it's not.
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    07-16-2013, 12:51 AM
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I think I agree with you Draft lover
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    08-19-2013, 11:54 PM
  #39
Foal
Run

I'd like to say, first, that what I'm about to say about MM is MY experience, and if there is someone here who had a much different experience, that is wonderful! I am not saying you're wrong, or trying to take away from your time there whatsoever. My time, however, was the worst time I have ever had.
I should probably give you a little back story. I went to MM right after high school, had been riding since I was 9, eventing at Training/Prelim level for several years, and brought my 18 (at the time) year old thoroughbred with me to board on campus.
I attended MM as a full-time student in 2010, for a nine-month riding masters program. I lasted six months. This is the type of school that you will spend thousands and thousands of dollars on, and then walk around campus wondering "where the hell does all my money go?" There is NO turnout. What they consider turnout is letting your horse free-lunge around the ring for 10-30 minutes at a time, depending on how early you woke up, how many other people are waiting to turnout their horses, etc. There is NO grass-grazing allowed, whatsoever.
The horses are fed corn, it's the owner, Ron's, defense against colic. MY horse, however, did miserably on this diet. He lost a lot of weight, and got very sick. Think about it people! When you eat corn, what happens? You see it in your poop the next day (graphic, but true). And it's because it goes right through you, there is very little nutritional value from it. Do you think it's much different for horses? I don't.
The barns aren't hideously constructed, but they aren't great either. They're wood, with dirt floor, and the wood only goes as low as the ground. MM is located in a valley, and if you've ever been to West Virginia before you know it tends to rain, and often. Many of these barns were placed next to a creek. It rains, the creek overflows, the barns were flooded several times throughout my stay there. And when horses feet get constantly wet, they develop thrush. There were few horses that I remember not having gotten thrush at least once. My horse had never had the issue before, but he certainly got it there. And they're "cure" for this was to spray athlete's foot spray on the bottom of the hoof. Yeah...No.
The dorms feel like a prison cell, if you're in the main dorm. No windows, all cinderblock walls, unless you're on "co-ed" side. You're allowed to paint and decorate and write on the walls and do whatever you like, which helps, but not much.
The other students were either all racist, or extremely stuck up. I made few friends, but you could always put that one back on me I suppose.
I never ate food at the cafeteria, personal thing, so I couldn't tell you much about it, or about the "bus" rooms or "trailer" rooms. I hear they were better, but I never tried them, so nothing I could say about them would matter much.
The instructors were nice, but I didn't learn anything I didn't already know, and I felt they changed my riding style quite a bit, and in a way that doesn't seem widely accepted in other areas. I was actually taught back OUT of a lot of the positions they taught once I came home and began working with other instructors again.
I like a lot of the theory of MM, like heeding (a way they teach of leading and communicating with the horse), and using grooming as a key communication tool. However they didn't teach it well, or with much patience. And when I took my first Training class with Ron, MM's founder, where we sat with him in a room while we watched an upper-level student work with a new horse in training, he would prattle on and on about a lot of things that didn't even pertain to the lesson. I think some of the most memorable advice I got from him were "don't fart while spooning." and "Don't take a sleeping pill and a laxative at the same time." Funny? Absolutely! Worth the money you spend? Absolutely not.
I did feel like a slave there. I've cleaned stalls since I was nine, there was a period of a few years I would clean 15-30 a morning without much problem. The way they have the schedule set up here...just prepare to not have free time, ever, and when you do being far too exhausted to use it. I would not consider myself a lazy person, and this seemed far too much for me.
When my horse and I came home he was extremely underweight, and almost...sad. This sounds corny, but he was not his old self. It took awhile to get him back to normal. He seemed uninterested in everything.
My personal, personal advice is run. Do not risk your own mental well-being, I certainly did.
     
    08-20-2013, 03:13 AM
  #40
Foal
-Sigh- I graduated high school earlier this year and I want to go into an equine field, I had Meredith Manor picked as my college but I don't know. Reviews seem to be really bad. Then there are a handful of really good ones.

My main thing is that I am not an experienced rider. I've only ridden for about a year, and none of that has been official riding. It has been all "back-yard" instruction. So I don't want to go into a program where I would be put on the back burner from being extremely inexperienced. I want to go somewhere where I can get what I put in. I also don't want to go to a college where I am doing equine studies but the horses aren't the main thing.

I already feel a bit silly for spending so much money on it when I could just do an internship or something. But I am one of the first people in my family to head towards college and I want that.
     

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