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post #11 of 34 Old 12-13-2011, 11:42 AM
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I'm currently an Apprentice to a trainer teaching Kids/Beginners how to ride.

I charge $20 for a group on their own horse, $25 if they use one of my horses, $30 for a private on their own horse, or $35 for a private lesson on one of my horses. They generally get an hour, but if I feel they need to go over time I don't have a problem with that if schedule allows. If not, I offer to help them later on too.

I do training rides for $20 and that goes for as long as I need to. I'll take your horse into the arena at a show for you for $15 if you already paid the entry fee.

Plus, I get paid by the hour from the head trainer for the other work I do. Including riding her horses, cleaning stalls, saddling/bathing horses, bringing in horses, feeding, keeping records, checking in boarders, grainings, etc.

I love it because it's my niche. I've done it for so long I can't imagine life without it.

EDIT: Forgot something. At some of the english shows, I'll braid for other people. Plaits, buttons, running braids, scallop braids, ribbon braids. You name it. This rakes in cash because let's face it, no one wants to do that themselves

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.

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post #12 of 34 Old 12-13-2011, 03:07 PM
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I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, but I'd like to add to the question: Did anyone here manage to get into the horse industry professionally who didn't have horses/get to ride as a kid?

As someone who didn't get to start riding until college, it seems impossible to compete against people who have been riding & caring for horses their entire lives...
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post #13 of 34 Old 12-13-2011, 06:10 PM
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Verona, I don't know many people around here in the business that didn't grow up in it...but on the same hand, most folks around here are either in the business by family or they aren't in the business at all. I really don't know anyone personally who just decided to pick it up later in life except to buy an already broke horse and plod around on a few trails.

All that being said, it greatly depends on the individual person, their ability, their dedication, and if they are a "natural" or not. I know lots of people who've been in the business their whole lives that couldn't ride out of a wet paper bag and I've seen some folks (mostly on here) who show tremendous promise after riding for a relatively short time.

There is very little doubt in my mind that someone could get into horses later on in life and be successful at whatever they wanted...so long as they have the dedication and natural ability working for them.

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post #14 of 34 Old 12-13-2011, 06:15 PM
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I hope this isn't hijacking the thread, but I'd like to add to the question: Did anyone here manage to get into the horse industry professionally who didn't have horses/get to ride as a kid?
In fact I know several people (I personally don't make money on horses, rather pour money into them ). Again, some farriers and vets out there. But I also know several trainers.

I think it's harder with the boarding facility, because it's very expensive to buy one (I can only imagine how huge the mortgage is).

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post #15 of 34 Old 12-14-2011, 07:34 PM
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I graduated with a Bachelor's in Animal Science - Industry Management.. Unfortuantely with today's job market, I was unable to find a "decent paying" job in the animal industry right after college (everyone wants you to have experience, no one wants to give you experience...), so right now I am working an office job for my family's trucking business. (I always said I would NEVER have an office job....) I have owned and ridden horses my entire life, I've also worked as a wrangler at two different trail ride operations, and would love a career with horses, possibly with the USDA, or my own business...Problem is, I can't think of a business I could start that would actually be halfway successful...(I prefer not to ride really green horses, so being a colt starter/trainer is kind of out...) Right now I am enjoying showing my cutting horse, and have realized that for now, I don't mind the office job as long as I still get to ride for fun. Someday, I hope to make it a full time career, just going to take the right timing and planning!
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I graduated with a Bachelor's in Animal Science - Industry Management.. Unfortuantely with today's job market, I was unable to find a "decent paying" job in the animal industry right after college (everyone wants you to have experience, no one wants to give you experience...), so right now I am working an office job for my family's trucking business. (I always said I would NEVER have an office job....) I have owned and ridden horses my entire life, I've also worked as a wrangler at two different trail ride operations, and would love a career with horses, possibly with the USDA, or my own business...Problem is, I can't think of a business I could start that would actually be halfway successful...(I prefer not to ride really green horses, so being a colt starter/trainer is kind of out...) Right now I am enjoying showing my cutting horse, and have realized that for now, I don't mind the office job as long as I still get to ride for fun. Someday, I hope to make it a full time career, just going to take the right timing and planning!
Not wanting to work with colts kinda leaves you out....you have to start out at the bottom unfortunately and being female makes it a little harder too.

Since you show cutters, what about being a loper? But even you get stuck riding something green...

Best of luck!
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I lasted 6 months. The yard was horrific, the people were worse. As a 16yo I was left in charge of 11 horses and ponies to care for, tack up, sometimes excercise and clean up after. It depends were you go, but I wouldn't do it unless I was working form someone with pennies.
I LOVE that work, though. I've been a groom every summer between school, and now I'm looking to make it a career. But I do go on trials/interviews for the job so I can get a feel from the people. That's definitely the key: The bosses!


I'm glad this thread has gotten some good posts

I feel like you definitely have to have the passion if you want to last in the industry!

Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world. ~Harriet Tubman
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I feel like you definitely have to have the passion if you want to last in the industry!
I agree! There is always someone else willing to take your place if you don't! :)
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post #19 of 34 Old 12-15-2011, 02:46 AM
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I LOVE that work, though. I've been a groom every summer between school, and now I'm looking to make it a career. But I do go on trials/interviews for the job so I can get a feel from the people. That's definitely the key: The bosses!


I'm glad this thread has gotten some good posts

I feel like you definitely have to have the passion if you want to last in the industry!

True, it can be an enjoyable job. However, I found them to extremely hard school and backwards thinking in terms of the horses, and some times down right cruel. You're not going to agree with everyone in life, but finding someone that you agree with 100% on methods, training etc isn't easy. I'm always open for new ways, but sometimes the welfare of the animal has to come first. Unfortunately there are a lot of people, especially older men who used to have their glory, with horses and ponies in their back gardens (not saying this is a bad thing) up to their knees in mud, caked in their own faeces and old rusted wires for fences, rusted parts of machinary and a blatant lack of care or thought to the horse's welfare ( that, is a bad thing).

Now, if you're lucky enough to find someone to work for, I don't know what the USA, or the UK is like, but you have one of few options. You either compete dressage at PSG, you jump S (level below grand prix) and you have a decent experience handling and breaking youngsters.
You become an au pair with some stable duties. You work on a stud farm. Or, my favourite one, working student. It pays about €200 a month. My stable bill is €240 without added extras.
Very few offer tuition, you have to find your own accomodation, driving is a plus, and HVG liscense too.

All in all, if you have the drive, and luck, you'll get there. But unless I had a good mound of pennies to fall back on when things go awry, or I am at the riding level where I would get paid to keep me in a comfortable life style (horse, home, car) then its not for me.

I do occassionaly fill in for my yard, I'll help with turnout, boxes, training one of the young stallions. Sometimes even fill in a lesson. But not long term. Oh no.
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I didn't grow up with horses, at 7 I started lessons on and off when my parents could afford it. I was a groom but lost my job when the people got out of breeding and into a boarding barn, but 4 years I was a groom for this man. I mastered having 8 horses, groomed, tacked, braided in a short amount of time. From yearlings to stallions, I bugged the heck out of the main driver (these were harness ponies) because he would want to throw on some sort of show sheen and I would go back and wash it off and groom them right. They could count on the ponies turned out the best considering the conditions (almost no brushes, soap, stain removers, tack cleaner).

I made around $200 a week which isn't much but they did pay for food, and a place for me to sleep. It was only every other week as well through the show season. I did pick up other grooming jobs from the draft horses though which helped.

I think you got to get someone to give you a chance and prove to them they are not wasting their time and money.
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