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    01-18-2011, 12:50 PM
  #11
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by VelvetsAB    
Sandie looks much happier going over the 3rd and 4th course, then she did going over the first one. Since you did do several courses, it is fair that you would both get tired, and stop doing the easy things to make the course go smoothly, like the lead changes.

If it was me, I would do the starter level, even though it has the same size jumps as VG so that I could have a challenge with the new dressage test, but still not have to worry about the jump size so I could have another whole year of working on lead changes. (I don't event, but ride hunters, but if I did event, that is what I would do. I could move up a division in hunters this year, but am opting to stay at the same one so that I can have a better position, and be solid where I am before moving up.)

When you go through an in-and-out, you are better to just stay forward. That way you arent going foward back forward back and can stay out of the way.
Yeah that's a lot of my problem, I feel like I really need to work on my form and my horse's form and I don't want to turn her loose on a BN course if we're not ready, because I want to avoid getting both of us so nervous that we say "forget it" to the whole thing. I wish there was a jump course that was between VG/Starter (which is only 1'6"-2'0") and BN (2'3"-2'7") in our Eventing mini trials. That's the frustrating part - I wish there was a 2'0"-2'3" course for Starter, so I could step up slowly. But going from a max of 2'0" to a max of 2'7" is a lot more intimidating for me and my 14.1hh pony :/ Well, for ME anyway, she'd probably jump it no problem if I wasn't in her way!
     
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    01-18-2011, 07:26 PM
  #12
Trained
Eventerdrew, just curious. What did you get on that free walk? That was cute how she stretched up and out rather than down.

HITS, I know how you feel about the lack of gradual height options. In area 1, the lowest elementary level is 2.0' to 2.3', and very few shows offer it anyway. It's a bit intimidating if you're new the sport as an adult. You definitely have a lot more options to perfect your riding out there. While Sandie looks like she's a careful jumper, and your form over those solid fences looks pretty **** good, you probably do want more "forward" before moving up. Most people tell me, the time to move up is when the stuff you're jumping starts to look small. You're a smart rider. I'm sure you'll make the best choice for you and Sandie.
     
    01-18-2011, 09:41 PM
  #13
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Eventerdrew, just curious. What did you get on that free walk? That was cute how she stretched up and out rather than down.

HITS, I know how you feel about the lack of gradual height options. In area 1, the lowest elementary level is 2.0' to 2.3', and very few shows offer it anyway. It's a bit intimidating if you're new the sport as an adult. You definitely have a lot more options to perfect your riding out there. While Sandie looks like she's a careful jumper, and your form over those solid fences looks pretty **** good, you probably do want more "forward" before moving up. Most people tell me, the time to move up is when the stuff you're jumping starts to look small. You're a smart rider. I'm sure you'll make the best choice for you and Sandie.
Thanks :)
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    01-18-2011, 10:37 PM
  #14
Trained
HITS - this might be a little encouranging - but don't forget what type of HT you are doing. If you are entering a USEA HT, expect the fences to be max. BUT if you enter a non USEA HT, then the fences wont be near the height as you would find them to be at USEA HT's.

For example, if you sign up for BN at an unsanctioned HT, the fences will be a level lower than what you are doing. Least, that's how it is here in Michigan. So, when I do the May 2nd Canter Benefit, and I sign up for BN...the fences, are really something that a GAG rider would beable to ride. Or, if I sign up for Novice at the Battle Creek Hunt HT, I'm really riding fences that a BN rider would ride...get what I am saying?

Here is Battle Creeks BN course....so easy and simple.....






























Here is are vids of Nelson and I doing that very BN course ....



So, maybe start out, at a HT doing BN, that isn't USEA recognized?

I understand intimidation and allowing fear to get the best of you - I want to help more, but as of now I have to go to sleep.
     
    01-18-2011, 10:42 PM
  #15
Trained
Good point MIE. HITS, you could totally do that course! Those are smaller than the stuff you were jumping at the hunter pace.
     
    01-19-2011, 11:04 AM
  #16
Green Broke
MBP- I got a 6 on the free walk. We had a hellatious warm up (she flipped out the entire time) so for her to be calm enough to even walk was an accomplishment!

We got a 34.3 on that test and ended on our dressage score
     
    01-19-2011, 12:21 PM
  #17
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
HITS - this might be a little encouranging - but don't forget what type of HT you are doing. If you are entering a USEA HT, expect the fences to be max. BUT if you enter a non USEA HT, then the fences wont be near the height as you would find them to be at USEA HT's.

For example, if you sign up for BN at an unsanctioned HT, the fences will be a level lower than what you are doing. Least, that's how it is here in Michigan. So, when I do the May 2nd Canter Benefit, and I sign up for BN...the fences, are really something that a GAG rider would beable to ride. Or, if I sign up for Novice at the Battle Creek Hunt HT, I'm really riding fences that a BN rider would ride...get what I am saying?

Here is Battle Creeks BN course....so easy and simple.....






























Here is are vids of Nelson and I doing that very BN course ....

YouTube - Nelson And My First 1/2 Of Our CC Phase At The Skyline Stables Event, June 6th

YouTube - Nelson And My 2nd 1/2 Of Our CC Phase At The June 6th Skyline Stable HT

So, maybe start out, at a HT doing BN, that isn't USEA recognized?

I understand intimidation and allowing fear to get the best of you - I want to help more, but as of now I have to go to sleep.
THANKS! Ok this makes me feel better, those jumps look totally doable for us :) I wish I could find footage of the mini trials I've been doing marked as BN...here's the website to the ones from last year, but it's hard for me to tell which is BN versus Novice...maybe one of you could take a stab at it! ;)

Casual Creation Photography - 2010

If you click at the bottom on the Bath Haunted Hunter Pace and choose the time period 12:30-1:00 I'm about halfway down the page jumping Sandie over the "coffin" jump ;)

But any of the "mini trials" on that link above would take you to each of the ones I went to. I'm familiar with their courses, but have never bothered to look at the BN course, so I'm not sure which of those jumps are BN just by looking at them. :/
     
    01-20-2011, 11:43 AM
  #18
Foal
MIE, I think a trip to battle creek is in my future! That course looks inviting and fun! Well, maybe the stairs would be scary, but overall it looks pretty good!
HITS, when is the first HT or event? Probably not for a couple of months. Maybe you can set up some XC style jumps in your indoor and practice. The more you do it the more comfortable you will be. Bring in some tires, put tarps over oxers, maybe stack soem hay bales. THe rate at which you guys seem to progress and you'll be fine with BN in no time!
I'm on lunch now, so I only have one picture with me. I'll post more later.
This is on the BN course at a local place. It is the first part of an in and out. The back half is exactly the same.
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    01-21-2011, 09:02 AM
  #19
Green Broke
Thanks wren!!! You guys are making me feel so much more confident already! I love you all!! ;)
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    01-21-2011, 09:22 AM
  #20
Trained
Yeah Stef, I say stick to HT's that are not USEA rated to start out with. Then when you get comfortable with that, then merge to BN courses that are USEA rated.

And remember - you should be schooling 1 level above what you are competing at, so that you do not fall into this issue that you have now, found yourself in.

Where is your coach? Why hasn't your coach been schooling you over BN courses already? If you've been doing Pre-BN, you should of been schooling over BN courses. So, that when you are ready to move to BN, you're already competant and comfortable doing so.

My issue.....is the stadium - where your issue is the CC. You can point me at a Prelim CC fence and I'd do it without a hitch...but stadium, that's a whole other story for me. So I understand the fears and I understand the "what if's" that go through your head.

Gaining confidence is a slow and steady process, so just keep at it. One step at a time :)
     

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