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    03-31-2014, 12:37 PM
  #1
Weanling
Boots on a XC COURSE ???

Hey guys so I have an OTTB thatís just turned 6 so I want to get him started over a jumping course and of course get him started on cross-country course. But I have an issue! He is very thinned walled and his feet arenít the best. I brought him home last year and he had racing shoes on him they fell off the third day he was here. Therefore I am debating on putting shoes on him or just being him boots. I canít keep him barefoot because he is too sensitive when it comes on walking on certain terrain plus I donít think itís the best idea on an xc course.
So Iím asking has anyone ever gone out on a course with boots???? What are all your opinionís with using boots out on a xc course? Also if you have used some yourself which one are the best ones to use ??????
     
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    04-02-2014, 05:35 PM
  #2
Trained
If you can get shoes to stay on, that's your best bet. The only good hoof boots for galloping are Renegades and even then, I would not advise it in any but the best footing conditions. Maybe if nail on shoes don't stay on, you can try glue on shoes? They don't last nearly as long but will make it through a show.
     
    04-02-2014, 05:58 PM
  #3
Yearling
When was the horses last race and how long after did you bring him home...
Racing plates are not made to stay on for long periods of time like regular shoes riding horses use. They are for a race and that is it...then they are removed as they are "spent" and "used up"...

Do you have a farrier who does "shoe" work or only {barefoot} trims?

Seriously, if you trust your farrier and their judgement...ask them about shoeing the horse and what he would recommend. {If you don't trust your farrier find another!}
Explain what you would like to start doing and if you have any issues of the horse hitting himself {forging} or ticking sounds, rubs on his ankles or stumbling...anything you can tell him to give him insight into how the horse travels will be a great help to him.
Be prepared to jog the horse, even ride the horse for the farrier to watch the way he travels.

I know of very few horses that can't hold a shoe, even club-footed horses can hold shoes for a regular length cycle with the proper farrier doing the work...

A good farrier is worth their weight in gold...

There is a saying... "No feet no horse"...translation...find a good farrier and when you do treat them well as they have your horses soundness in their hands!

As for hoof boots...either do shoes or go barefoot.
Toughen the soles and get your horse on a really good hoof supplement. Again, trust that farrier {?} ...then ask their opinion of what supplement will give you the best results...your farrier handles your horses feet, legs often and knows what will work and what won't. Farriers, good ones, are a wealth of information and help offered if you just ask them for it...
I can't think of anything more distracting to the horse than having a hoof boot slapping around loose or losing one while trying to jump...talk about unbalancing his feet and stride...no thanks.

Good luck.

jmo...
     
    04-03-2014, 06:02 PM
  #4
Weanling
My BIGGEST problem is I don't trust my farrier and I've been throught almost all of them in my area not even kidding you! The one I have now does shoeing and barefoot he hasent stired me wrong yet. All the farriers I spoken to say that he wont be able to keep a shoe on for very long. Manny's front feet are thinned walled and he barely has a heel, the heel he does have is to forward so he flaires out like cazy. And around where I live there seems to be NO knowlegable farriers! I'ts very frustrating!! Thank for your opinion guys !!
     
    04-08-2014, 05:48 PM
  #5
Foal
If there is a track around that you got your horse from, there is somebody who knows how to handle thoroughbred hooves. Have you really been through all the farriers in the area? Do you have a coach? If you do, they may have recommendations for you. Or your friends?
I would NOT use boots for XC, like other commenters noted it could increase slipping and would change the horses balance. Maybe for going out for a hack they would be ok. Of course, you could start your horse trotting around alone and with other horses in the field, walking over small obstacles, and doing a little hill work (walk/trot) to build muscles until you can get shoes on him. This will all benefit you tremendously once you actually start jumping in terms of XC basics.
That said, you may just need to wait a bit until your horse grows out hooves. Try checking out some "hoof hardeners" that may or may not work. My farrier swears by keratex and I use it 3-4 times a week on my horse. It seems to help, as do biotin supplements that help hooves grow.
Talk about glue on shoes if they are concerned. I've seen farriers basically build hooves out of epoxy for TBs with atrocious hooves. Its not ideal, but they work. Someone who knows how to shoe also will know how to help a horse build up some heel. It is do-able, it just takes patience and time.
     
    04-08-2014, 08:40 PM
  #6
Weanling
I feel like I'm in hole ! There is no track in my area I would have to bring a farrie out from way to far!! My coach suggested her farrier a barefoot trimmer my poor horses feet got all hot and he couldnt even walk after I called her and she told me she might of whent to deep on him and told me that my next trim would be free because she messed up. I told her no thank you certainly because she did the same to my friends horse. My horses feet are just not growing!! Last time my farrier came out he was concerned about him not having anofe foot to even put a shoe. I have him on pur geletin to make his feet grow, I put on Jim Rinkens to Harden the foot and I also put some shoot the name slips me its this awful black tar to helphs feet grow my farrier swears by it but m coach says it will blister him but it hasent blistered him at all. My last farrier did clue on shoes but he was ruining my horses foot I had to go with an other one he tryed to lower the angle of his heel even more!! I don't have much knowledge with hooves but I know taking off more heel off a horses that already does not have a heel is not going to help. Even with studs on a boot you guys still think it's going to be to slippery? I know of a very good eventer she toke he horse to level training barefoot.
     
    04-08-2014, 08:43 PM
  #7
Weanling
I wish I had more Professional farriers in my area:(
     
    04-08-2014, 09:06 PM
  #8
Started
Where in Ontario are you located? I find it difficult to believe there are so few professional farriers in your area, it might be that you just don't have the right connections, aren't looking in the right places, etc.

A horse with good feet can jump barefoot no problem, but if it's going to make your horse sore it's not an option. Hoof boots just aren't made for CC, even with studs, so you ARE in a hole until you can find the right farrier, unfortunately.
     
    04-08-2014, 10:53 PM
  #9
Weanling
Look into what you are feeding him. If he is not getting all his dietary requirements met, he will be unable to grow healthy, strong hooves. I would prefer feeding biotin over gelatin as gelatin is an animal by-product and horses aren't designed to process animal products. However, which ever way you go - It will be a long process as the new, healthy hoof growth has to grow out from the coronet. Depending on the rate at which your horse's hoof grows, this can take between 6-12 months.

Hoof grease will help keep the hooves from drying out and becoming brittle, so if you aren't already using it it may be something to look into.

Balanced Equine Nutrition - Feeding for hoof health

http://animalscience.ag.utk.edu/hors...ves-ASH139.pdf

What also helps to stimulate hoof growth is exposing the hoof to lots of different terrain. If a horse is on sand all the time, his hooves will never cope with being worked on harder or possibly rockier ground. Just like us, if we walk around on soft sand, grass, carpet and smooth surfaces all the time and are then made to walk on gravel or bitumen/asphalt... well we aren't going to be super comfortable. :)

Not sure if this helps (as I know Ontario is a huge place), but here are some barefoot trimmers in Ontario certified trimmers

Here is another list
The Horse's Hoof: Professional Trimmers List

Maybe search on facebook in local pages for a good farrier near you? Ask friends who they use and see if they are taking new clients?

This may be interesting for you to read... I know it is in Australia but the work Andrew and Nikki do, rehabilitating hooves and teaching people is really cool. You might get a few ideas? Mayfield Barehoof Care Centre Home Page They have some cool little things called barefoot tips... which just protect the sole of the hoof but still allow the hoof to work as it was designed to. They aren't as heavy or as big as normal shoes and seem to be a bit harder to pull off. They may be worth investigating. :) Good luck. Xx
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    04-09-2014, 07:10 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by alexischristina    
Where in Ontario are you located? I find it difficult to believe there are so few professional farriers in your area, it might be that you just don't have the right connections, aren't looking in the right places, etc.

A horse with good feet can jump barefoot no problem, but if it's going to make your horse sore it's not an option. Hoof boots just aren't made for CC, even with studs, so you ARE in a hole until you can find the right farrier, unfortunately.
Hopefuly I don't have the right connection I live in Sudbury
     

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