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post #11 of 23 Old 07-13-2010, 09:21 AM
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I love your horses attitude on the XC course, it's just how you want them to be. He sees the jump, locks on to it and then attacks it boldly. Well ridden and a lovely explanation of the coffin canter too, sounds easy but can be a difficult ask for all that energy + control when you are jumping XC fences!

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post #12 of 23 Old 07-13-2010, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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In the 3rd video, when Nelson and I were approaching the 2nd fence, that's about as close as I've been able to get, to a coffin canter. Lol.

HalfPass - THANKS *HUGS* I am SO PROUD of Nelson! I beamed when Sue told me that Nelson would of easily gone 4* in his younger days. Man, that made my day! I'd give anything to make him 10 again. I just love him so much!

It was a very long day. A 3 hour haul to the facility, then he had to wait another 2 hours in a stall in the heat, to wait for our level's lesson. And then he had to ride in that heat for 2 hours, and then another 3 hour haul home.

He was a super trouper, and through all that, he had plenty of pop and snap for our lesson! Sue was very impressed with him <3 *swoon*

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I love your horses attitude on the XC course, it's just how you want them to be. He sees the jump, locks on to it and then attacks it boldly. Well ridden and a lovely explanation of the coffin canter too, sounds easy but can be a difficult ask for all that energy + control when you are jumping XC fences!

Thank you! The Clinitian said that he can easly go Training Level, even at his age :) *swoon*

He most definitely locks onto the fences. Even when we were finished doing a course that the clinitian set up for us, he was still locking onto the next fence, wanting to GO GO GO.

The coffin canter is very tough - oh my gosh! That's where the importancies of Dressage comes into factor, and now that makes even more sense. It amazes me at how much dressage is implimented in Stadium and Cross Country.

Sue told me that I have to go home, and work on obtaining that adjustability. Bringing him back under me, while keeping the snap/pop in his gait, and then letting him go, and then bringing him back, and then letting him go.

Whew...I'm whooped just thinking about it! LOL! I have to do LOTS more 2 point work too, phtpthtpht - my legs are going to hate me.

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The coffin canter is very tough - oh my gosh! That's where the importancies of Dressage comes into factor, and now that makes even more sense. It amazes me at how much dressage is implimented in Stadium and Cross Country.
It seems that EVERYONE I meet around here wants to get into eventing and they all ask me the same question "what do you think is the most important thing to work on to be an eventer?" I have the same answer every time: "Dressage is the key to eventing, all the other stages are reliant on your dressage training"

....and everyone has the same response to that answer - "Oh" (downcast look)

P.S. Good luck for training level, you guys will do great I am sure!

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You know, every single Clinitian I've ridden with, all emphasise dressage, dressage, dressage, dressage. Bill Hoos, Buck Davidson, Leslie Law, David O'Connor, and the list goes on. From Advanced Eventers to 4*.

The CC courses have become far more technical than they ever have been, and dressage has become the most important factor to Eventing because of it - so if one wants to gage their 3 phases successfully and safely, they must impliment dressage beyond dressage.

Sue was telling me how she'll go out on the CC course and do mostly dressage between the fences.

I love it!

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I didnt know there was a name for the gait Petey has lol now I know its called the Coffin Canter haha. He was bred and shown as an eventer and I swear that is the only gait he knows haha

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The Coffin Canter takes alot of work to obtain. It doesn't happen "naturally". It has to come from the riders aids, asking for it. Of course your horse has to naturally have pop/spark - but it comes from the rider knowing how to ask for it.

Nelson has Evented Prelim, and has alot of pop and spark in his movements and energy while out on the CC course - and it takes me alot of work to get it.

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it was a joke... I've worked on dressage and eventing w my old eventer trainer and we've gotten the coffin canter- Petey is very good at is bc he has A LOT of energy even when moving in a smaller stride and he has a lot of hindquarter muscle and is very very adjustable

"The horse you get off is not the same as the horse you got on; it is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible the change is for the better."
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Hey! I found an article Pacticle Horseman put out on the Coffin Canter -

http://special.equisearch.com/downlo...finCanter2.pdf

I am sure that this article can way better explain a Coffin Canter than I could.

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Ahh... Practical Horseman, how I love thee so! Lol Thanks for the article, it was super informative!
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