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    12-05-2009, 10:11 PM
Green Broke
Xeventer is COMPLEATLY right. I got a horrible score on a movment because Geof was hollow through the back
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    12-06-2009, 12:34 AM
Thanks stormyblues :]

It's such a shame that people are so focused on a "frame" any more. Everyone gets so focused on how the front end looks they forget about what's important. Proper head carriage does not come from pulling the horse's head to its chest, proper head carriage is a result of a horse stepping under itself with its hind end and lifting through the back. If the horse's body is working properly then a nice headset will come naturally. Now obviously, the front end does need some attention because the horse does need to be supple in its neck, but there are plenty of bending exercises to help with that. Long story short, the horse should be ridden from the hind end forward, not vice verse. Sorry for the rant!
    12-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks everyone :) Yeah she has been better since those shows though because now it seems like she is trying to move more under herself. I will work on those circles because when going to the right she throws her left shoulder out and when going to the left she falls in. My instructor is Jen Ravalico and she is a very good trainer. She has had me improve so much over the last couple months. So the problems aren't because of her since she is helping me fix them but its how my position and balance is. On Fleur, if my balance isn't perfect then that's when she will go hollow and not forward. I will keep doing more bending exercises though and continue to try to work on her hind end.
    12-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Green Broke
Also, if you are having issues with her shoulders, that means your leg is getting a little weak on her sides. That could be something to work on too.

And I'm right there with you Eventer!!!!!!!
    12-06-2009, 10:07 PM
Yeahh haha its kind of hard because she tends to get faster and forward mixed upp
    12-07-2009, 08:01 AM
Green Broke
Just really work on it with her
    12-08-2009, 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Spyder    
Just WHO is teaching you dressage?
My question too....

Rhythm, Relaxation and Contact are the first three steps on the training scale.
In your test think about consistency and accuracy. Make your circles circles, not misshapen things that bleed into the corners. Make your corners corners - don't cut them off. Make your transitions softer, don't surprise your horse with your aids, count 1-2-3 with your aids. And for the lord's sake SHORTEN YOUR REINS.

I highly suggest riding with someone who can help you to ride more precisely and accurately. The better and more consistently you ride - the more your horse will relax.
    12-08-2009, 05:03 PM
Guys, I don't want to make myself sound mean, but I ride with her and the same trainer, and you have to stop telling her who to train with. Jen is an amazing trainer and we have both dramatically improved over the past year. And without sounding like I'm bragging, Jen almost made it to the olympics, but broke her collarbone a couple weeks before, so she couldn't go. So, with all due respect, stop telling her that she has to find a better trainer.
    12-08-2009, 07:03 PM
The biggest fault I found in eventing is that most eventers are taught dressage by eventers that have a mindset that shouts out "just get through the dressage part so we can get to the fun jumping portion".

The best eventers will take dressage lessons from a real dressage person, cross country from an eventer and jumping from a real jumper. These people win the most often.

When you see a dressage test in eventing that looks like it could beat an only dressage trained horse then I can guarantee that person was taught by a dressage person. This does not take away from what can be learned by an eventer PROVIDED they don't have a "I really hate dressage but we are stuck with it" thinking.

There is just so much more that can be learned from a dressage focused person, just as you will from a jumper only focused person and an eventer (for cross country portion only) focused person.
    12-08-2009, 07:08 PM
^^ AGREED !!

Also, for stadium you should go out & find a really good HUNTER trainer & take a bunch of lessons from them.....at most events you don't have to be running around like mad to make time in stadium, just ride a good line at a reasonable pace & you will make good time.

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