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  • What is a pre-beginner novice cross country course like?
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    08-24-2009, 08:42 PM
  #1
Green Broke
first cross country schooling show...

I don't even know what to call the show that I plan to go to, but it is a cross country only competition where you get to ride the course twice then average your scores to see how you place. It's on the 12th and I plan to do pre-beginner novice where the max fence height is 2 foot. I might not even show, depends on how Rocket does when we get there, but I don't forsee any problems with that, being an ex-racehorse, and how he acts when I trailer him to trail places.

Anyway, what I really want to know is what to expect. In the pre-beginner novice there is no water, so I won't have to fret over his adversion to everything wet, and I am guessing the jumps will be pretty straight forward. My big question is, can I trot the course? I know that won't provide any decent time, but I really want this to be a good learning experiance for him and me, not a case of the flying rocket.
     
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    08-24-2009, 10:50 PM
  #2
Trained
Huh. You aren't that far from me. You're going to the Battle Creek Hunt Club's "Just Jump It".



Yes you can just trot the course, but my question is - do you have an Eventing Coach?
     
    08-25-2009, 11:48 AM
  #3
Green Broke
Yeah, its the one at the battle creek hunt club.

Nope, I don't have an eventing couch, I am at a barn that focuses mostly on dressage and some low level jumping. The girl that I am going with has been giving me pointers though.
     
    08-25-2009, 04:41 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Have you or your horse ever been out on XC?

Just wondering because it's a whole different ballgame than jumpers/hunters

*i wasn't trying to sound rude, although I can see if you would take it that way :/

Either way, XC is a big adrenaline rush and you'll love it. Good luck to you and Rocket!
     
    08-25-2009, 05:20 PM
  #5
Trained
You didn't come off as rude at all Drew - don't be so paranoid about it, lol. Just be yoursef - don't worry.

QHDragon, I wouldn't do anything out on a CC course without a coach, please. If you want to start doing some XC, contact Miriam at the Hunt Club and discuss lessons with her. She can give you basic coaching and help you on the starting process of Eventing over the Hunt Club's CC course.

While I love it when newcomers' want to venture into this sport that I have such passion for, I really want to encourage them to start taking CC lessons berfore they enter any sort of comp. These fences are not someting to piss around with, even if it is 2'0" - just as Drew said, CC fences are a whole different ball game.

Yes, you can trot the GAG course, that will be perfectly acceptable. Heck, I troted a Novice course because it was pissing down rain and I didn't want to risk a fall. Not a problem.

What you do need to learn - is how to ride a CC fence educatedly, under the tutalidge of someone who is quallified and experienced to walk you through it one on one.
     
    08-28-2009, 08:29 PM
  #6
Green Broke
I can't afford lessons right now, I'm working my butt off a couple days a week out at the barn as it is to "pay" for my dressage lessons.

I'm really too concerned about the jumps, I currently school over solid jumps and other than one little accident Rocket is very honest over everything I point him at. He has also forced me to improve my posistion greatly since he jumps everything like it might eat him.
     
    08-29-2009, 09:20 AM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by QHDragon    
I can't afford lessons right now, I'm working my butt off a couple days a week out at the barn as it is to "pay" for my dressage lessons.

I'm really too concerned about the jumps, I currently school over solid jumps and other than one little accident Rocket is very honest over everything I point him at. He has also forced me to improve my posistion greatly since he jumps everything like it might eat him.
Sounds like loads of fun! Good luck and have fun!

I'll just be myself...I'm so tired of people on this forum jumping on every person who says they don't have a coach. I can only afford to go to my coach every other month and that doesn't stop me from training and competing. Some people are self-taught...some people need constant guidance. Plus she already said she has experieince jumping and is taking dressage lessons. It's just such a downer when negative stuff is all people post on here. Two cents...
     
    08-29-2009, 09:56 AM
  #8
Trained
I am sick and tired of people on this forum, offering advice in an area they have little to no experience with. Eventing, regardless if it is a GAG fence or an ADV fence, is not something to piss around with.

And, I am sick and tired of people making a situation into something it is not. No one, neither Drew nor I dogged QHD for not having a coach. Can you point out exactly where it is that we poo pooed her for not having a coach?

Are you fully aware of the # of accidents that occured at low levels in the Eventing World last year?? Are you fully aware of the # of accidents that has already occured at low levels this year?

Are you involved in the Eventing World?

This is not a sport to piss around with. This is not some Stadium Fence in a sandy arena that you are approaching. This is not flat, raked ground you are approaching. These fences, do not fall over if you hit them - YOU DO.

Do you know anything about riding a CC course, regardless if it is GAG or Advanced?

Drew and I are concerned for someone's safety, that is why we ask questions. I want to be encouraging, you betcha - this is a great sport, and a hoot when you are fully prepared. But at the same time, this sport can be down right scarey, when you walk in unprepared.

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QHDragon,

I totally understand, how hard it is right now in this economy, to have a coach or regular lessons. I work full time, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week with a wage more than minimum - and I have a hard time keeping up with bills, rent, groceries, gas, Nelson, my other pets, and having a Coach.

That's fine. But if you choose to do this little event, go to the Hunt Club before hand, and hire Miriam to work with you one on one over those fences. I am sure you can afford to pay for a day's lesson with Miriam before hand, or even go to Lou Don and have Sarah work with you.

Do you have a Certified and Approved Safety Vest? Do you have a medical card? If not, you can borrow mine, we live close enough I am sure we can work something out.

I might even beable to help you out.

Do not enter a CC Comp, even if it is a mini trial - without working/training before hand, over the fences.

I've been Eventing since High School, this year I opted out to take care of Nelsons feet and get back into financial standing since Hubby lost his job due to the economy. I saw that little comp at the Hunt Club, and I wanted to sign up, but I wont - because I haven't done much training at all this season with Nelson and that wouldn't be fair to he, nor I, nor the others I'll be compeating against.

I have friends doing the Lou Don Short Course Event this fall. I wanted to join them, sounds like fun - but instead, beacuse we haven't been training much, I opted out and decided to be a groom instead.

That's the fact of Eventing.

I'm moving Nelson this Saturday to an Eventing Facility to start conditioning and training for the 2010 season, and Richland Park - no comps for us this year, but training will start for next.

I have not seen these GAG fences at the Hunt Club. Last I was there, there were fences from BN to T - Jim must of been pretty busy than building GAG fences out there.

GAG fences are pretty strait forward, I don't know what these one's look like. I can imagine Tires, Brush Fences, lots of wood built fences because Jim is pretty particular on what his course looks like - and I am sure Craig B was out there working with him, and he's a serious hard ass where eventing is involved.

I'm going to have to go out there and have a look see, cause now I am curious. Have you seen the fences yet?

If you choose to do this little comp, please make sure you have Miriam work with you over those fences before hand. I'd contact her and ask her what it would cost to hire her to give you a CC lesson over the GAG fences.

Do not go over any CC fence without a proper and adequate safety vest on.
     
    08-29-2009, 10:19 AM
  #9
Green Broke
I agree with MIEventer.

I do think you will be fine over GAG fences (especially at a trot) but I would just get some lessons out on the XC course first. That way you and Rocket will feel totally comfortable when show time comes.

IDK, I just feel more comfortable when I have schooled the course with my coach. In fact, I've never been out on the XC course without her!

I can totally relate to the money issue. I have two horses that compete and I can only afford one lesson a week, which I pay for out of my pocket, not my parent's. I switch my horses every week so that they both get a lesson every two weeks. Although, sometimes Uma steals Demi's lesson because she's harder for me to ride >.< It's a struggle for me to even go to a schooling show. I went to one last weekend and now I can't compete until October. I used to work off my lessons with my old trainer by being her working student (tacking her horses up, riding them if she's too tired, and following her around to be her slave. Haha)

That's great that Rocket is bold and honest. Definitely helps!

Whatever you choose to do, make sure to be safe and have fun!
     
    08-29-2009, 07:32 PM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
I am sick and tired of people on this forum, offering advice in an area they have little to no experience with.
I didn't offer advice. I said sounds like loads of fun. Have a great time and have fun. Or something similar to that.

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And, I am sick and tired of people making a situation into something it is not. No one, neither Drew nor I dogged QHD for not having a coach. Can you point out exactly where it is that we poo pooed her for not having a coach?
You did that not me by posting this.

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Are you fully aware of the # of accidents that occured at low levels in the Eventing World last year?? Are you fully aware of the # of accidents that has already occured at low levels this year?
Nope. I don't dwell on negativity and charts of accidents on course. Although I do know one of my friends broke her pelvis last year...so that's one...

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Are you involved in the Eventing World?
Yes.

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Do you know anything about riding a CC course, regardless if it is GAG or Advanced?
Yes.

Goodbye thread. To touchy apparently.
     

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