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post #1 of 37 Old 01-12-2010, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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Moving up to Novice??

So, I've been talking with my trainer, and she and I both feel that Zip and I are ready to move up to novice. I've filled out my USEA forms and Michigan Eventing forms, etc, waiting for my mom to write the check [s], then mailing them out. =]

Anyways, my question is... what's the biggest change, in your opinion? I know fences go up to 2'11", and that's not a problem at all for us. It's just the technicality of the fences I'm worried about. Our dressage needs work, yes (whose doesn't?), but BN is just boring for both Zip and I. What's the "hardest" or "scariest" fence you see regularly on a novice course? What's the "scariest" fence you've EVER seen on a novice course? Any other differences you guys think I should be aware of? I've ridden through the new dressage tests- can't wait for the snow to melt so we can have our whole arena back. =] (One side is slushy and not good for actual work.) I appreciate any feedback anyone feels like giving me! Thanks. =]
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post #2 of 37 Old 01-12-2010, 04:38 PM
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Honestly, I don't see that big of a jump between BN and Novice. However, I had a horse who didn't look twice at anything. A lot of the jumps you have on BN, you will have on Novice, just one fence over and bigger. The scariest thing I've ever seen on a novice course was feedbags on a jump. My horse wanted to eat them! lol. Hedge apples can be scary too because the look more like holes in the jump and they are kind of an optical illusion

So glad you waited until BN was boring to move up! Too many people move up because they want to instead of waiting until their horse says "mom, this is boring. can we do something else?"

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post #3 of 37 Old 01-15-2010, 09:05 AM
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I also don't see a big jump between the 2. The differences I do see are bigger up/down banks and some lines/combos out on xc. But not an ABC combo, like "cabin jump 16, then 2 strides to ditch jump 17".. still individual elements.
Every now and then you'll see a maxed out novice fence, looks big when you're walking the course, but when yyour coming at it on a horse it's no biggie :)

I think it's a bigger jump from N to T and T to P.

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post #4 of 37 Old 01-15-2010, 10:46 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys! I totally needed that reassurance. =] Anyone else have some helpful hints or tips?
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post #5 of 37 Old 01-15-2010, 10:51 PM
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school as much as you can ! i would also read the course discriptions in the omnibus to see what level they are at for each individual event. each event is different & usually the more maxed out courses take place in the fall & they are a bit easier in the spring. at least thats what ive noticed in my area...

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I agree, the jump from BN to novice isn't a huge deal, but there are some changes. The courses that I've schooled in on my area are pretty straight forward, but the jumps are definitely more intense to some degree. I feel like with BN novice jumps you don't really need to think much about them, (point and shoot really) but at novice is when you need to really be able to control your horse's gait and strategize before each jump in case you hit any trouble areas. "Trouble areas" being stuff like making decisions about your take off spots, and related things.

The most difficult novice obstacle I ever came across was a ditch set at the very bottom of a (moderately) steep hill. I've never been on a horse that didn't deer jump over ditches, so the downhill combo was... er... a good experience.

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novice is when you need to really be able to control your horse's gait and strategize before each jump in case you hit any trouble areas. "Trouble areas" being stuff like making decisions about your take off spots, and related things.
I agree with Kerplop on this, depending on the Novice course you are doing, some are point and shoot, others are more techinical where you really have to establish your rhythm for particular fences, and comibinations. I've also seen some pretty tight turns to get to the next fence - I remember after my ride, watching riders after me blow right past it, having to circle to beable to ride it to continue on with their course.

And in our area, Trakehener fences are introduced. Skinnies, drops into water - stuff like that.

How long have you been riding BN? How successful at BN were you?

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I've done two BN events. I'm aware that sounds like it'd be ridiculous to move up, but because Margaret agrees we are ready, and I've schooled novice fences, drops, jump skinnies regularly, etc, I don't feel that we're not ready.

Success-wise, we went double-clear both events, and our dressage... well, you know how our first event went. xD But the second was much improved, and we went to a few dressage shows and placed well after that. We've also been training all winter, and have come a long way since our debut event. I figured I would do the CANTER benefit at BN, then try the Battle Creek at novice. If BC is a flop... we can always move back to BN. It's not Zip's ability that worries me- he clears anything I point him at [assuming I'm not too large a distraction] up to four foot six, it's that I might screw him up.
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I agree with Kerplop on this, depending on the Novice course you are doing, some are point and shoot, others are more techinical where you really have to establish your rhythm for particular fences, and comibinations. I've also seen some pretty tight turns to get to the next fence - I remember after my ride, watching riders after me blow right past it, having to circle to beable to ride it to continue on with their course.

And in our area, Trakehener fences are introduced. Skinnies, drops into water - stuff like that.

How long have you been riding BN? How successful at BN were you?
i dont think there are trakehners until training level, correct me if im wrong... ?

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Not in our area. I guarantee you that you do Traks here.

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