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    01-25-2010, 05:33 PM
Green Broke
^ lucky! I would kill to jump a Trakehner at Novice here! We're not allowed to have skinnies, drops, or Traks until Training here.
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    01-25-2010, 07:39 PM
Skinnies are here, drops are here and so are traks for Novice.

Here is 1 course for an example. Richland Park, rated 3 star course. Click on Novice, you'll see the Trak fence.

At Battle Creek Hunt Club, there is not only a Trak, but a skinny and you drop into water. I'll see if I can find pictures.

I know of 3 other courses in the area who do as well.
    01-25-2010, 07:57 PM
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There isn't a whole lot of difference.

However, I see something with the avatar photo that has me concerned. It seems your horse has a tendancy to hang his front legs while jumping. This is a real concern to me in XC. I would set up a lot of multi jump gymnastic lines in the hope that it improves the horse's ability to lift up those knees. As the jumps get bigger, the horse's margin for error gets smaller and smaller. I would hate for your horse to hook his knees and flip on a jump.
    01-25-2010, 09:21 PM
Im not sure that's legal in novice though....just because an event does it, does not mean they are supposed too. The year before last I went to a training level event where half of the jumps/questions were too hard for that level. I have always been taught that trakeners start at training & liverpools start at prelim. I don't have a rule book on hand though...
    01-25-2010, 09:47 PM
I wouldn't question a 3 star rated course, that was designed by the guy who designed and built Rolex.

If he put it there, it's legal.

Richland Park is a BIG facility, where Olympic Riders compete at every single year. The course was designed and built by the same designer/builder of Rolex.
    01-26-2010, 01:08 PM
Green Broke
Ok I'm going to make my low status in the Eventing world VERY well known here, but what are Trakeners? <--- says the Intro just moving up to Very Green rider!
    01-26-2010, 01:19 PM
Green Broke
PS....Go Area VIII! hehe
    01-26-2010, 03:12 PM
Its a jump, usually a log, over top of a ditch.
    01-26-2010, 03:21 PM
Sorry if this sounds snotty, I don't mean it that way at all, but just because someone designed the rolex course doesnt mean they know all the rules for every level, especially the lower ones. I am not inclined to base all of the rules on what I've seen at events, especially because I've ridden so many courses that had many obstacles that were more challenging then they were allowed to be at that level. Literally every event I've been to in the past 3 years. Often times people will not talk to the organizer about this because they arent aware of the rules.
    01-26-2010, 03:30 PM
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Here are some of the different types of jumps;

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