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        02-20-2010, 12:01 PM
    Yesterday at the barn, while I was riding Nelson in the indoor - there was a fellow boarder on her HUGE massive Irish Sport Horse. HUGE MOFO, seroiusly! He was being very spunky under saddle for her, and I remember hearing the BO saying "don't let him do that" and the rider responded "why? It's just him being him, I accept it"

    And she sat quietly, rode him through it and that was that.

    I respect her for that! I respect the fact that she accepts her horse for who he is and allows him to express himself in his way. Instead of beating him into submission.

    Most riders would of beat him with their crop, or yanked on his face or made him work his ass off until he submitted - but not her. And for that, I applaud her and respect her.

    Just as Allison said - team work, teamsmanship, group effort - not one dominating the other.
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        02-20-2010, 12:05 PM
    Me too eventerdrew ! I don't see why more people don't event mares
        02-20-2010, 12:35 PM
    Thanks for posting that. Those horses are impossibly beautiful.
        02-20-2010, 12:40 PM
    Thanks for posting that.

    I learned a lot from reading all the responses as well. Eventing has always caught my eye but I don't think I have the guts to do it.

        02-20-2010, 12:47 PM
    The other thing that struck me about vid is that is must have been the first vet inspection of the event, before any competetion took place. The horses are beautifully groomed and several were braided. So not only are they hard fit and fresh, they must have thought they were getting dressed up to do something fun - the attitude of "THAT'S IT????????Jog up and down this little strip of asphalt? I wanna go DO something." is palpable.

    I suspect the vet inspection after XC is a little more subdued.
        02-20-2010, 01:31 PM
    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    A huge difference between event horses and most other disciplines is that we do NOT endeavor to make our horses robots with no will of their own. A horse like that can be a poor event horse.

    We allow them to have an opinion as they are an important part of a TEAM. Without their ability to express their knowledge too, they will be unable to scrape themselves out of a bad situation....sometimes coming as a result of a poor decision of the rider.

    It is hard to explain why we do not need or WANT a robotic partner. That being said, we sometimes have to endure our partner expressing themselves at inconvenient times. I used to chuckle, even through my angst.
    Yes, exactly!
    Unless my horse is disrespecting my space or another being's space, then they have every right to let fly antics of personality. Countless times, as you said, it can save a rider's life if the horse has been allowed to maintain their power to "speak" for themselves.
    I'd rather my horse refuse the jump instead of taking the bad distance and landing in the middle of the oxer. I'd like him to show me when he's feeling happy, excited, fearful, depressed, or sick so that I can make the best decisions for our safety. I'd want him to do something (or not do something) based on his own willingness, instead of just doing it because it's his job. It's not his job, he never applied for it, he is not obligated to work for us. It's his lifestyle that he shares with his partner (us), and he has the right to enjoy it and express what he's feeling.
        02-20-2010, 01:45 PM
    So if my horse bucks me off and goes for a nice gallop around the ring I can just blow it off and say, that's just him being him? How bout no. My horse doesnt get away with that, no Im not going to beat him but he wont get away with that. He'll be ridden and respectfully corrected till he stops. And no that's not taking away his "spirit" and making him a "robot" its teaching him to respect his job. He does still enjoy and do very well at his job but he's not disrepectful and unhandleable while doing so. Its a stupid excuse to chalk obvious misbehaviour up to an "athlete showing off"
        02-20-2010, 02:15 PM
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    Haha this is funny, because yesturday, rena did NOT want to pick up the right canter, because I was askign her to pick it up while she waas a littl more 'through' her body. Haha she threw in a few bucks/crow hops. I just sat deep and asked her to walk and we would do it again, rena has her opinion, its a 50/50 relationsship. We work together, but do you think, if there was two mountain climbing partners tied together (because their in a huge blizzard) that the more experienced one is going to say: 'oh, its ok, he's jsut showing off!' while the other guy is jumping around on thin ice???? No. A partnership is about them BOTH putting in equal effort and trusting eachother. I wont accept my partnerleaping and being UNRELIABLE. But I don't expect her to be good when im not 100% with her either. I just had to add my 0.02 on this thread, haha just to let y'all know what I think partnership is, and that I do know a lot of dressage riders who DO excpect their hroses to be robots.... but I know a lot that don't, :) beautiful horses in the vid!
        02-20-2010, 02:16 PM
    I think it's important to also point out that this is a show environment, meaning these horses are NOT at home in their comfort zone. They're in a new environment, with thousands of people watching them. They can pick up on excitement and nerves, and they will act accordingly. A horse could be a perfect gentleman at home, but when you bring them into that sort of situation, 9 times out of 10, they are going to get a little frisky. (I'm not talking about your run of the mill horse here, I'm talking specifically about eventers.) I've seen even our calmest school ponies get all snorty & frisky when brought to an event. It's not the horse misbehaving, it's his way of saying, "ooh,what's happening now? This could be exciting!"
        02-20-2010, 02:24 PM
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    If only Lacey was younger, all this is sounding like she could have been an excellent eventer.

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