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        02-11-2013, 06:04 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
    i disagree with that idea ! Form always follows function. So if your position does not look good, chances are you are not functioning as well as you should. While I agree that sometimes in eventing you will not look pretty, most jumps your form should look good. Especially at the lower levels, your horse basically has to canter over one jump and a time that is not very technical.

    Saying you don't have to look pretty in eventing is just a good excuse to not have proper form.

    Agreed. But eventing is more about effective riding, while hunt seat is about looking good and some of the practices in hunt seat might lead to problems on uneven ground and roll back turns. That is what she has not been trained for.
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        02-11-2013, 06:09 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
    i disagree with that idea ! Form always follows function. So if your position does not look good, chances are you are not functioning as well as you should. While I agree that sometimes in eventing you will not look pretty, most jumps your form should look good. Especially at the lower levels, your horse basically has to canter over one jump and a time that is not very technical.

    Saying you don't have to look pretty in eventing is just a good excuse to not have proper form.
    Agreed.

    But eventing is more about effective riding, while hunt seat is about looking good and some of the practices in hunt seat might lead to problems on uneven ground and roll back turns. That is what she has not been trained for.


    ETA: And I hear again and again told to former hunters, "RIDE the horse; don't just sit on it and look pretty."
         
        02-11-2013, 10:05 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    I have done eventing now for 5 years, but I started as a hunter. Let me tell you- one event and you're hooked- no more hunters! :) Here are some of the things I really had to work on when I made the switch:
    Dressage:
    -Bend your elbows and have them relaxed. Bend them when you sit and straighten when you post up.
    - Relax your back. There should be no arch, more like a soft curve to a relaxed flat back with following hips. Think about sitting between your seatbones and your tail bone with shoulders back and just barely feeling your seatbones move with the horse.
    - Your heels don't have to be (and shouldn't be) that far down. In fact, you're more balanced with a relaxed heel than a braced heel stuck all the way down.
    - Make sure your horse can bend, get on the bit (on the verical is best) and stay off his forehand (big problem with so many hunters)

    Show Jumping/Stadium:
    - Don't perch yourself like a hunter. The best place to be is right smack in the center of your horse. If you feel him start to back off, you can easily roll your seat and start driving.
    - Most people are in a 2 point for the ride between the jump, but about 3-4 strides away, sit and get ready to push if you need to.
    - It's all about riding your horse. It's not staying out of his way like in hunters. In eventing, the motto (around here at least) is "doesn't have to be pretty, just kick on" which pretty much means- as long as you get over it, clear your head and start riding to the next fence

    Cross Country:
    - Most people never sit down on cross country. Make sure you can stay balanced in a galloping position before, over and after jumps.
    - Make sure you can stay balanced doing down drops or up banks
    - Get your horse out. Let him see water, ditches, banks, drops, solid fences with lots of color.
    -Have fun. This is what makes eventing different from other sports. Make it count.

    As far as conditioning: spend most of your time on dressage and you will be fine. BN is not demanding at all if you are prepared. Even when you think your dressage is good enough, make it better. You will be surprised how many people compete several levels lower than they train just so that they can win.

    I use front and back Woof brushing boots and I wear a Tipperary vest. Make sure you remember to buy the number holder. It's a plastic sleave that you wear like a vest and your number slides in there. Remember to get a medical armband (complete with your bloodtype) and a coat for dressage. Depending on the order of the show, show up for stadium ready for cross country. Make sure your helmet is eventing certified and you use a legal bit for dressage and stadium. I ride all three phases in a Dutton XC Saddle, so you will be fine. Make sure you know the rules and how to jump the jumps in warm-up(red on right). You will see some tough riding, so take note of that to use in the future :) Also- bring a crop- most of the jumps can make the horses back off pretty good.

    I don't know about where you are, but where I am, eventers don't think very highly of hunters at all. I wouldn't mention that this is just something on your bucket list unless you want to sit and debate all day :) Good Luck! Let us know how it goes.
         
        02-11-2013, 10:57 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Hey thanks! :)

    Good thing now is that I have a horse that is NOT a hunter type really. He has the form but not the long strides or lower headset. He's more equitation/jumper. My old horse, Rusty, was a hunter - a real pain to get off the forehand, but beautiful long strides and a great jump.

    I don't have anyone to event with that's experienced, in response to one of the other posts. We don't have much English riding around here. I hope to get out on a course a few times this summer. Casper loves, loves, LOVES to jump and seems very willing, and he isn't spooky really, so I think he will be easy to acclimate. He's also very responsive to the bit (just a plain snaffle!) and my leg. He needs to work on flexing a lot, because he loves to cut corners. He's a little out of shape for the time being. :p

    I'm also excited because my two point has improved IMMENSELY since last summer.

    Eventing has been on my bucket list, but as my main discipline. Sure, I love hunter derbies and cool stuff like that, but I'm not really into the "prettiness" of the hunters, especially without a hunter horse. I was willing to stay in hunters for Rusty because he had so much potential, but then he got himself permanently injured. :(

    One more thing, can I wear my coat I use at my hunter/jumper shows for dressage? And can I wear my beige breeches?
         
        02-12-2013, 06:22 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    Beige breeches should be fine. If you have a black coat, it should be ok, just look at pictures of dressage in eventing and see if it matches close enough to that.

    For getting him into the corners (which is VERY important. Dressage rings feel smaller than they look!) try wearing spurrs or carrying a dressage whip if you're comfortable with that. Really work on moving his ribcage into the corner. A corner should be the place where you get a nice bend and then it pushes you out straight on the other side.

    A big problem that a ton of people have with dressage: don't worry too much about "head set". Get him forward and responsive before you ask for anything else. Then, after he is going nicely, you can half halt with your fingers while you keep him going forwards. This should get him to give to the bit, if he is that responsive. In the beginning, it is going to take a lot of practice, and he might not get it for a while. For tips on collection, there are a few great threads on here. Look for posts by Kayty- she knows what she is talking about!
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        02-12-2013, 08:54 AM
      #16
    Trained
    I must say, I am soooo excited for you ! Eventing is really a whole different world that is full of fun =]

    What you have for a coat should be fine for dressage as long as its black or navy, and you can use the same coat for stadium. You shouldnt need to buy any holder for your number, I didnt need one at catalpa anyways. The only event in area IV that you needed one is roebkes run.

    Eventers do tend to be snobs about hunters, but I have always ridden with a HJ trainer and my horses are usually better in stadium than anyone in my division. Its an easy switch from hunters to eventing if you have a decent HJ trainer.
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        02-12-2013, 09:38 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    Oh good! I have a navy coat, so that will be good.

    I am super excited too! This is something I have dreamed of!

    So will you be at Catalpa, gypsygirl? That would be pretty awesome!

    I'm *hoping* eventing will be cheaper than rated hunter/jumper shows. Those are so expensive...regardless, I will probably make the switch anyway. :)
         
        02-12-2013, 09:59 AM
      #18
    Foal
    Good luck and have fun. Was not trying to discourage you, Corazon! Just want you to stay safe.

    And while at the trials, maybe you can find a trainer or others from your neck of the woods.
         
        02-12-2013, 10:01 AM
      #19
    Trained
    Yes they re definitely cheaper than a rated HJ show.

    Im not sure if I will be there. I love that event, it just depends on school and stuff. I havent planned my schedule of shows at all this year, when is catalpa going to be ?
         
        02-12-2013, 10:05 AM
      #20
    Trained
    I just looked, its beginning of Aug, I will have to see. I get done with my classes june something, but I then have an externship over the summer and I will be trying to get a job. I graduate in september, so its going to be a busy summer.
         

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