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post #11 of 13 Old 11-19-2009, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hccumminssmoke View Post
Secretariat was known as 'Big Red'...

True, but the original 'Big Red' was Man O' War.

Secretariat's nickname was not only because of his color, but in tribute to his ancestor, Man O' War.

Man O' War, from all accounts, was a nasty sumbitch. He passed that temperament, as well as his blazing speed, onto his progeny.

War Admiral and Hard Tack were sons of his, and Seabiscuit was Hard Tack's son, so Man O' War was his grandsire.

It's difficult to find any horse with TB in its pedigree that doesn't have a line back to Man O' War.

It's like the Arabian breed today; it's a surprise if you don't find a horse who is related to Bask, Khemosabi, or both.
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post #12 of 13 Old 01-09-2010, 01:52 AM
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Take a look at my horse's pedigree. here is the link. Impressively Designed Paint She goes back to Man O' War through his other very good son, War Relic. Because they are part of my mare's pedigree, I've done alot of studying up on some of these horses and War Relic had a very bad disposition. From all I've read I think that Man O' War's sons were throwbacks to his grandsire, hastings. Hastings was was the meanest out of the whole bunch. I have no clue how his trainer even Managed to get him on a track to race, Because he was so dangerous and so resistive to any kind of training, but he had unbeliveable speed. He was even more notorious as a breeding stallion. His grooms dared not go near him any more than was necsisary and had to build a specail run leading into his stall so that no one would get hurt trying to go in his stall. On another note, My horse's great grandsire, Aforethought, also came from the Bulldog/Teddy line. He was a half brother to the famed Dr. Fager who was considered to be one of the greatest milers of the 21st century. Bull Lea and Triple Crown winner, Citation also came out of this line.
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post #13 of 13 Old 01-13-2010, 08:43 AM
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If you'd read up on the "training methods" in use then,it's a wonder that most horses had a good disposition..
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