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    05-30-2012, 11:11 AM
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(hated that part of round robin showmanship round).
Eeep! I had to rep horse & pony for Ultimate Showmanship a few times. I've since gotten over it but I had a ridiculous fear of birds, the poultry part killed me every time and sexing a rabbit, that's darn near impossible for a horse kid that was used to looking for grapefruits or lack thereof.
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    05-30-2012, 11:41 AM
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I think the object is for "YOU", to raise and care for the animals. Doesnt seem right to call it a 4 H project and then drop it off at a boarding barn.
Ok, around here most kids in 4H are unable to have large animals at home so they "board" them. It's not like horse boarding, basically there are a few farms that are set up for 4H kids and you get individual space, proper housing and access to water. All the work is still the responsibility of the kid, they just have it "boarded" because a pig/goat/sheep/steer/etc... won't fit in their city backyard.
     
    05-30-2012, 11:46 AM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Delfina    
Ok, around here most kids in 4H are unable to have large animals at home so they "board" them. It's not like horse boarding, basically there are a few farms that are set up for 4H kids and you get individual space, proper housing and access to water. All the work is still the responsibility of the kid, they just have it "boarded" because a pig/goat/sheep/steer/etc... won't fit in their city backyard.
What she said. Our school district had barns for each school, where we paid to board every year. Some people don't have that luxury of being provided a nice, clean place to stall their projects. Trust me, if you want to win, you NEED to work with your animals every day.
     
    05-30-2012, 12:20 PM
  #14
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Sorry, some of you misunderstood me. By 'board' I meant that I need a place to keep the animal. I am willing and wanting to assume FULL care of my project including mucking, bathing, feeding, exersizing, socializing, training, etc- and am not going to pay someone to do it for me. However, I live smack-dab in the middle of a large town (Katy, near Houston) and have a backyard that can't be more than 20x30, with strict city codes. I cannot keep an animal at my home unless it was a rabbit.

Thank you so much for the information guys. One other thing that I forgot though, is to mention that I'm homeschooled. We have a homeschool division, but not a place to board our animals together as some of you said, so I'm on my own.

I do know that I'm not doing turkeys though XD we have a few males at our farm and I absolutely hate them. I will most likely go with a chicken or rabbit to begin with, and hopefully do a goat or a pig later. I'd LOVE to do a steer, but just don't have the funding for that. The most I'm going to be able to pay to buy my animal is going to be about $300, and I don't want to go over $600 all together, which means I'll most likely be sticking with the rabbit or chicken.

Tell me, do you usually make your investment back, or is that only with the champions?
     
    05-30-2012, 12:34 PM
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Does Katy have a show barn? I showed at a Katy show barn with my goats and lamb, but I can't remember where. Research in your area and find a school barn that may allow you to stall there.

The only way you will be able to make money off your projects is if you have sponsors. Go to family members, friends, businesses, ANYONE. They could give you $100 each, and that could be put towards a higher quality animal or towards feed or boarding. My last year showing at the Pasadena rodeo, I showed a goat, lamb, pig, turkey tom, and rabbits. I placed with everything except my piggy, who went to slaughter then our dinner table. :/ I made $1200 for 3rd place lamb, $600 for 6th place goat, $600 for 9th place turkey tom, and $500 for 10th meat pen. And that's with the bad economy during the Texas drought. After the rodeo took out their percentage I was left with $2900, $900 of which I gave to my parents. My goat was $400, lamb was $500, pig was $400, turkeys were $25 for five toms(one died), and rabbits were $100 for 4 from the same litter. Then we have to include the cost of feed and shavings and boarding and gas and shows. It all adds up, but the cost will lessen if you have sponsors. Everyone I know says you're lucky if you even break even. FFA/4H is a passion for people, not a money earner. Looking back, I can't even comprehend how I was able to raise three goats, a lamb, a pig, four turkeys, and eight rabbits all at once. And that's not including the horses or my other pets. Phew!
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    05-30-2012, 06:07 PM
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All at once? Goodness! I was assuming that had been over a number of years.

Ideally I'd like to benefit from some of the scholarships and stuff offered by our 4-H program, but other than that I don't really care. I just don't want to be loosing HUGE amounts of money simply because I don't have much to start with xD

Thanks so much for all of the information, Kayella. I'll look into a few of the barns around here :)
     
    05-30-2012, 06:16 PM
  #17
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I showed in FFA over three years. I got my first goat my sophomore year. If you want to raise a goat, I know a couple places you could get one. My favorite breeder is R.O. Hall in Spring, TX. My very first goat was a doe(something looked down upon), who hadn't been de-horned(also looked down upon.) I spent $200 bucks on her, raised her at the barn with the free supplied sand as substrate, and fed her Honors Intimidator. Honors no longer produces that, though. I showed her at about 100 pounds(large for a doe) and got 5th in class. Pretty good for my first time showing, I'd say. Then I get called back in for auction placing. I ended up getting 12th auction spot which is the last auction spot. With a doe. With horns. That I went out and bought myself. Suck on that ag teacher! Anyways, the breeder's wife loved my doe, because she was the only kid out of her favorite nanny that was named after her. So I pulled Rosie out of sale and sold her to the breeder for $300 cash and two free goats. So I sold her for $700 basically. Seeing as how that was my only project my first year, I'd say I definitely made money back on her.

Oh and by the way, I'm the goat/lamb showing pro ;) So if you do raise a goat and ever need help, just let me know! :)
     
    05-30-2012, 06:28 PM
  #18
Trained
I did market steers(back in the 90's when beef prices tanked) not a good idea...

I would do lambs if I were you. You don't need to keep them as long as a steer and feed as much. Also much easier to fit and show.

So funny this subject came up, we were just talking about the good 'ol days of 4H and FFA today after roping at a friends this morning. Retelling stories of showing at the county fair.

I had one of my steers lay down and try to take a nap during showmanship...the same steer kicked one of the judges...needless to say I didn't get any showmanship ribbons that year..LOL
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    05-30-2012, 06:39 PM
  #19
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A lamb sounds like it would be really fun to raise! That is, if they can even survive in our weather...XD I love animals but I'm not insulating and air conditioning my stall. It will be lucky to get a fan.

LOL, poor you! I would of been mortified...and trying not to laugh- if that happened. And knowing the animals that I usually end up with, something just like that would happen to me.
     
    05-30-2012, 06:58 PM
  #20
Green Broke
I personally don't like lambs too much. They're the village idiot of the Ag barn. Seriously. I'd be walking my lamb to the treadmill, and she would run to the end of her leash, run a circle around me, and continue the process. So I just had a lamb running around me in circles. :/

EDIT: And all my lamb got was a fan. She was shaved the whole time I had her since I showed her, so she really didn't have any problem with the heat.
     

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