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        04-12-2010, 06:14 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    IlyTango- If he's being stupid and lunging and barking while tied up and im with the pig. I'll just ignore or tell him to shut up. Then continue with petting sexy. Then when he's finally calm and not acting like an idiot. I'll tell him he's a good boy and we can go inside for "his time" and I'll play with him or w/e.
    I think after a few times of this he'll see that the pig isnt going to hurt me or w/e his problem is he'll find out he can't get away with it. Lol rotties are smart to! They might not be the smartest but hey their used for police work and military work, so they got to have some brains :P

    Whiskeynoo he does have his bits in place. He's reg. And I baught him so I could show him but he's got doggy acne right now so can't until that clears up. Or if not i'll get him into obediance trials and rack up points that way. He's from imported lines so all his grandsires and stuff are champions.
    I don't think i'll smack him put i'll use the dominant dog excersize where I make him lay on his back and grab his muzzle, then in a deep voice tell him no or shut up
         
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        04-12-2010, 06:57 PM
      #22
    Yearling
    WELL! The dog is going! Im actually sobbing right now. But I tied him up and was with sexy out of reach and Duke didnt even care. He was paying attention but that was it. I then walked around the yard with sexy giving him pets. Duke started to whine and jump around. But he also has major seperation anxiety but when we came closer Duke settled down. There wasnt any problem. I took the lead off the pole and started to pet sexy again. Duke kept his distance and I made him sit down, I held on to the leash. Sexy started to get a little nervous. I was still petting him and Duke lunged and bit my hand. Im so freakin upset. I know he didnt aim for my hand and was going for sexy but still!
    I really don't want to hear any "I told you so". I might of been asking for it but all I wanted to do was work it out before getting rid of him. I don't get it! He was fine fine when he was on the pole. Nothing had changed except for me taking him off it. I loved that dog so much! I hate him now
         
        04-12-2010, 07:32 PM
      #23
    Trained
    I'm sorry to hear that - It's always hard when a pet goes against the trust you put in it. It was going to go one way or the other, and it's a shame it went that way. It's a sad fact of life that a lot of dogs just don't fit into a home that have livestock/other pets.

    I hope you can find a suitable home for him!
         
        04-12-2010, 07:48 PM
      #24
    Yearling
    I called my mom and she wants me to wait until we move. That way the pig will have his own yard. But I want a dog I can have work with me on the farm, come with me to feed horses and not have to worry about it. I told her who's to say a fence will keep him away from livestock. Im almost done with dogs I've always had them in my home but it seems that I can't find that right breed for me.
         
        04-12-2010, 07:55 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    Oh my god! It's definitely a good-GREAT-idea to get rid of him then. I'm sorry to say it, and I'm sorry for you because it's really hard to give up a pet, but if he's like that then he's not safe to keep around-for you or any of your animals. Just keep looking. There are lots of good dogs out there, just Duke wasn't one suited for you.
         
        04-12-2010, 07:59 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Instead of, I told you so I am going to say I am glad that you made a good decision before something really bad happened. I have a story for you also. Sorry I mixed up the Rott and Pit but to me they are the same temperment.
    An employee of mine raised Rotts and had a momma and some adult offspring and had them for years from birth so he knew there history. One day he was laying on the floor watching TV playing with the mom and out of no where she went after his throat. He couldn't believe how a dog that had never shown any aggression just snapped. He put all of his dogs down the next day. So you are doing the right thing and being sensible before it goes really bad.
         
        04-12-2010, 08:05 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    I'm so sorry about what you have had to go through.

    Just for future reference, some dogs do well as farm dogs, some don't. While any breed CAN be acclimatized to being around livestock, I have to say in all honesty, I have only ever known one Rottie that was good around livestock, and he was raised IN the goat barn from a 5 week old pup.

    I would never recommend hitting/kicking your dog for going after the pig, that only makes a further bad association with the animal. I'm very sorry you got bit.

    There are a lot of breeds that have been BRED to be farm dogs, and do exactly what you are looking for in a dog. Stick with those in the future - Border Collies, Aussies, even some bloodlines of Rough Collies (like mine!) get them neutered as soon as they are old enough to do so, socialise them with the livestock early on and teach them their boundaries while they are young. Get them in obedience training by 10 weeks of age, and you will have a great farm dog, and a great working companion. Your current dog is neither, he's a pet, so understand that about him, and treat him accordingly. Keep him away from your livestock, love him and give him plenty of one on one time, but don't take him into the barn.

    I don't believe he's beyond learning how to act appropriately around the animals, but you would need to invest in a trainer who knows what they are doing to acclimatize him. I don't think from the sounds of it this is something you would or should tackle on your own. Shock collars can be very valuable tools in this kind of situation, but only in the hands of someone who REALLY knows how to use them properly.

    Good luck and I hope once he is no longer kept in the yard with Sexy (great piggy name, BTW) he will be a beloved family pet.
         
        04-12-2010, 08:06 PM
      #28
    Trained
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    I called my mom and she wants me to wait until we move. That way the pig will have his own yard. But I want a dog I can have work with me on the farm, come with me to feed horses and not have to worry about it. I told her who's to say a fence will keep him away from livestock. Im almost done with dogs I've always had them in my home but it seems that I can't find that right breed for me.
    I'm the same - I want my dogs to be a part of my life and that means being safe around horses and other livestock.

    I hope you don't give up on dogs! There are so many good dogs out there who would suit your situation. Dalmations are actually perfect companions for horses as they were bred to run alongside the horse drawn fire carriages - And they don't have a herding drive or a hunting drive.

    Herding breeds are generally not livestock aggresive but they do chase - You just have to channel that energy by giving them a job. Our 5 Kelpies (Herding dogs) can all be taken out on long rides with the horses.
         
        04-12-2010, 08:12 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    Thanks, Im now worried about if I can't find him a good home. I want him to go to someone with rott experiance. But what if no one wants him, id have to put him down.
    Churumbeque, wow that would of been so scary. I can see why he put her down. Actually I think because of that story im going to contact a rotti rescue in the state. Maybe they can help me place him.
         
        04-12-2010, 08:28 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    Indy- I really don't want to work with Duke and have him. I don't think he would do good if I had him in a kennel for the day while I worked with horses and did chores. Right now he's always with me were not seperated for more then 3 hours a day and that's how its been ever since I got him. Just the fact that he was fine with me petting sexy then sexy started to get nervous a tiny bit and back away from me. Duke goes off and bites... Im not sure what he would do in another situation.

    Wild spot I don't know, I've had so much experiance with other dog breeds. And I've studied a lot of breeds but it seems the kind im more drawn to like the large breeds, st bernards,english mastiff, rotties you can't have as farm dogs. Actually my dream dog would be a Borzio I love everything about them but they have to high of a prey drive there is no way id ever be able to have one.
         

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