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post #21 of 28 Old 06-11-2010, 10:16 PM
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Sorry, I don't consider barn cats "pets" I think of them the same way I do the wild birds I feed. I wouldn't take one of them to the vet if it was injured either.
If city folks would stop dumping their animals off at the nice farm house, maybe I wouldn't have to deal with it. I've even had a chicken dumped off in my driveway. All those farm stores selling cute chickens and ducks every Easter make me sick. Then some stupid parent buys it for their kid. When it grows up and start pooping everywhere they think people like me will want it...Wrong.
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post #22 of 28 Old 06-11-2010, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve View Post

I do understand that, and it does make sense. But I don't give them a pill. Or 1/2 a pill or even 1/27 a pill. I give them a tiny bit of liquid stuff that comes in a dropper. They get 1/2 a mL. The dosage on the bottle says 1mL for a 12 - 15lb infant. So they are not being overdosing. If anything, they are under-dosing because I don't give them much.

I don't think you understand that Tylenol isn't designed for cats.. their systems are different from a human's - they can't process the drugs in Tylenol correctly, like our bodies can (to an extent) -- so even giving a "correct" dose for a human that small can be extremely detrimental to a cat.

Our barn cats aren't the typical "barn cats." They are loved and spoiled rotten pets that just happen to live in the barn, lol. Dora IS at the barn, I never took her anywhere. My cat would be pissed, lol. And I also know she wouldn't take just any injured cat in, but we only have our cats. And I do believe if you are going to keep a pet [because these are pets] you should take it to a vet when it needs to see one. The same reason people take their horses and dogs. She bought a trap, and I catch and neuter/spay the ferals [it's free at N.O.A.H.] and release them. They never come back after that because the barn turns into the evil chop-shop, lol.

The way I understand it, it causes problems when it's too much. Anything in high volumes can cause problems. But they aren't getting that much. They are not overdosing. If it's too much, their bodies can't process it, but when it's NOT too much, then can handle it. Make sense?
But it isn't good for them! Can you find any literature anywhere from a reputable source that says that giving Tylenol to cats is okay, and has been studied extensively?

It makes me think of beet pulp. They say you can't feed it dry. There are scientific studies and articles written by vets stating the problems it can cause when fed dry. But there are people on this forum who DO feed it dry, and have fed it dry for years without a problem.

Please don't use this argument. Some people have kept horses on barbed wire for years without incident ... some people have "first hand" experiences with just about any dangerous situation that didn't end badly - it still doesn't make it a good idea.
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post #23 of 28 Old 06-11-2010, 10:22 PM
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I agree with you JustDressageIt, this is my last post as well. The OP seems to think everything she does is okay because she does it her way and after all , she knows best.
I know nothing about her except what she has posted, yet she argues with everything anyone says when she asks advice.
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post #24 of 28 Old 06-11-2010, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve View Post
I do believe I have explained my reasons for giving it. And I am willing to take advice. After taking in, processing, and understanding said advice, I made a decision. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do?

Again. You all remember what they say about assuming things, right? =]
So if you came on here and stated, after careful consideration, you decided it would be in your cat's best interest to just amputate the leg with a bandsaw, and do it at home because you can't afford the vet, we should all be in agreement with it because it's YOUR decision?

You're making a bad judgement here. People are trying to help you, teach you, and answer your call for help. You are being hard-headed and taking the classic route most people who are fighting a subject on principle as opposed to reason generally do - by claiming it's your right, it's your choice, etc.

As far as assumptions - what about the assumption you are making - that you think you know more than any vet in any published study, and despite all the literature, and direct warnings, tylenol must still be fine to give your cats because you haven't killed one yet?

Seriously, should it take the experience of the drug KILLING your cat to stop you from using it?

Agreed with JDI, this is pointless and I will not post on this thread again.
For shame, Riccil0ve, I had a lot of respect for you until this point.

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post #25 of 28 Old 06-11-2010, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
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Please, show me when I argued. I'm begging you. Because I'm not arguing. I never have argued. That's the funny thing with the internet, people can put whatever tone they want on it.

But. I agree. I'm done with my thread too. I do not appreciate being treated like a two-year-old throwing a tantrum. o_O

Okay, edited to respond to Indy. Why on earth would I think it was in her best interest to amputate her leg with a bandsaw? Or try to treat it because I couldn't afford a vet? I am not being hard-headed. I am more than happy to admit I'm wrong. Nor have I said I'm right. I am not using the excuse that it's my choice, my right, and/or my decision and not yours. You do not have to agree with me.

I apologize if you think I'm a silly girl, and I'm sorry that some of you have lost respect for me.

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One more, that's it I promise (myself.) You have been educated about the dangers of using Tylenol with cats, and you argued that it hasn't hurt any of your cats (yet) so it can't be that bad, right?

If you choose to medicate your cats with Tylenol from here on in, you are being willfully ignorant; you know the possible consequences, you are the one with the brain that can process information and deduct that giving Tylenol, when there are other (safe!) options out there, is silly. The cat just trusts you, or takes the medicine one way or another.

My point is: Why take the risk? Why not say "thank you, I didn't know Tylenol wasn't safe, I will not do it again, I will go get some medicine designed for cats from my vet instead."? Why argue that just because *your* experiences haven't led to a death *yet* they won't?

I just dealt with a poisoned cat - it was not pretty. She was in the ICU for 5 days, and she looked like she wasn't going to make it. We don't know what she ate, but it was awful... so I feel very strongly about this.
Why the heck would you chance poisoning and killing the cat when you now know that it is not safe?

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I have just read this entire thread and the overwhelming question I have is WHY ask for help when everything that has been suggested has been thrown back in the faces of the people you actually asked to help you, and as for not arguing you may not have argued but you have come back with a very snipey attiude that says to everyone that you are going to ignore what they have said anyway.
I have one piece of advice as an onlooker from the outside, and that is please dont bother asking for help if you are not willing to take the advice, and Im not condoning giving the cats Tylenol in any way but why make such a big thing about still giving it to them, just dont say anything about it and do it, if you are so convinced its the best thing to do, because you obviously dont need a second oppinion and this thread would have ended long ago.

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First - I have not been snipey at all. I think I'm the only one who did stay cool throughout the whole thread. I took the information and processed it, and explained why I made the decision I made. If that comes off as arguing and being snipey, then ok. I really don't mind. I don't need to be respected by people I've never met and never will. As I said, I respect most every person on this forum, and I am more than willing to take advice. Just because I'm not taking the only advice given to me doesn't make me un-willing. When every person offers several different suggestions and then I throw it back in their face, you can tell me I shouldn't be asking for advice. ::sigh:: You don't have to understand. It's really not that big of a deal. o_O

Second - Dora had an abscess on the back of her leg. The vet said they caught it just before it could get infected, so she got an antibiotic shot and a tube of salve for it. She's doing much better, running around and playful. And apparently she was a total angel at the vet. =]

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