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post #11 of 18 Old 07-29-2014, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by DraftyAiresMum View Post
Yes, foot of the cliff is correct terminology.
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post #12 of 18 Old 07-29-2014, 07:01 PM
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hmm... well, a few years ago there a few cows that fell off a cliff into the canyon road.
The county even put a sign up.. watch for falling cows. The cattle were new to the mountains and would see the river and i guess make a mad dash.
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^I saw a lot of those signs when I drove through CO...and falling rocks too of course! lol
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post #14 of 18 Old 07-30-2014, 09:07 AM
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Another part of the falling cow danger with those signs isn't because they just walk off the cliff, but if they stand too close to the edge to graze, sometimes the ground will crumble beneath them, causing them to fall.
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Hello. May I suggest that you also ask your question on the "front porch" section of . There you can get input from many experienced ox drovers. Regarding some of the comments, my own limited experience has shown me that it takes less time to yoke a pair of oxen than to harness a team of horses.

Several scenarios have run through my mind. I have found that throughout history, the ruling classes have had little regard for the cost of things that belong to those of lesser status. The queen could simply have had her henchmen appropriate the rig. If she wanted it to look like an accident, a young, untrained team panicking on a bridge makes a good one.
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post #16 of 18 Old 07-31-2014, 07:39 PM
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I'd have a hard time believing why a girl/lady/woman would be in an ox cart at night. Oxen were slow and were used for hauling large loads, not "going for a drive". The carts were noisy and the wheels had to be frequently greased so a teamster would have to accompany the cart. Oxen aren't driven like horses, the teamster would crack a whip near the animals head to get it to turn away. Because of the rough action of the carts on bumpy rutted roads, people preferred to walk. To give you a better idea - when the early settlers moved from the east coast toward the plains, oxen were used, a six or 8 hitch to move the big wagons thro hilly country as horses would never have stood up to this. Once out in flatter country the oxen were traded for horses.
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The girl was forced into the oxcart... This was a murder.
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OK but those carts could be heard a mile away with all the creaking and squealing. I was in error, the Conestogas were greased, not the ox carts. The carts contained no iron at all, being entirely constructed of wood and animal hide. The cart was buoyant and could be floated across streams, yet it was strong enough to carry loads as heavy as 1000 lbs (450 kg). Two 12-foot-long (3.7 m) parallel oak shafts or "trams" bracketed the draft animal in front and formed the frame of the cart to the rear. Crosspieces held the floorboards, and front, side and rear boards or rails enclosed the box. These wooden pieces were joined by mortices and tenons. Also of seasoned oak was the axle, lashed to the cart by strips of hide or "shaganappi" attached when wet, which shrunk and tightened as they dried. The axles connected two spoked wheels, five or six feet in diameter, which were "dished" or in the form of a shallow cone, the apex of which was at the hub. The noise was akin to the shreeching of an unturned violin.
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