So. Met the goats.
And I think they were angel goats/you all are smoking something.
The owner left the door off their pen for THREE hours while we talked and not a goat even considered leaving the pen. It was ridiculous.
The pen was only maybe 800 square feet with no grazing to speak of so I'm thinking/hoping the chances of them staying in my pasture are pretty good.
And, the gates she's using were just wooden pallets laid up against the fence opening - easily pushed over by a goat that wanted out.
The owner was pretty sure that the older girl would definitely stay in my pasture even if I didn't improve it and she felt like it was 50/50 that the wether would try to get out just due to his age. I'm still planning to improve the fences, of course, but I'm feeling pretty good about this.
I asked about diseases and they've been tested for all the the ones of importance: CAE, etc.
She also said that her herd has been closed to outside animals for years.
Apparently the doe IS super well bred=her $450 price a couple years ago. However, the owner is pretty attached to her+wants her to have a good retirement home so that's why she's letting her go so cheaply.
All in all, I got a really good vibe from the seller and the goats.
The seller, actually it was super funny. We both had our dark auburn hair done the exact same way, we both have the exact same skin tone -"tan" freckly red head-, we have the same views on animals -"every animal deserves to be loved and has something to teach someone"-, it was just uncanny. And, on top of that, after I showed her a picture of Lacey and told her about where Lacey came from, it turned out that she had actually known Lacey before I got her - she grew up down the street from Lacey's previous owner lived!! Weirrrrrd.
It was super super uncanny.
And, on the goat price front, we haggled a bit and it turned out that she had just gotten a horse but didn't have any tack for said horse. Guess who has one horse and enough tack for 4 horses? Um, ME. So I'm trading tack+helmets for goats+$$ AND she signed her two oldest girls up for riding lessons. BAM.
The goats: they seemed perfect. Not super in your face, didn't try to touch me before I touched them -even when she gave me a bucket of grain- but allowed us to easily approach+pet them, even without grain. The doe (9y) was more standoffish but was fine with being approached etc. The wether (5mo) was a bit more "oooo! who are you!??" but contained himself to just sniffing prior to me touching him. Once I touched him, he wanted to be close to me but wasn't rude about it.
The wether was VERY polite about taking grain. I was handfeeding him and he gently nibbled it out of my hands but was fine when I stopped feeding it. The doe was quite a bit more pushy about it (she was obviously the dominant one) -bumping the grain bucket I was holding with her head, gobbling it out of my hands, etc- but I also wasn't being very assertive with her. I was kinda playing "goat petting zoo", just to get a real picture for their behavior.
Both allowed me to pet them all over without any issues as well.
Also, the wether turned out to be an Alpine/La Mancha cross. SUPER cute and he has the cute short ears of the La Mancha.
There are things I want to double check with you guys: both goats have horns. I've read that that's a huge no-no? They seemed fine in their horned-ness...I asked the owner about that and she said that she's always had horned goats (she had about 12 horned goats there) without any issues but that some people didn't like the horns... Horns=fine if the goats are nice?
The other thing is that the doe kept kind of butting the wether away from herself. The wether just started the weaning process on Tuesday so maybe he was being too forward with her? The owner had separated the two of them from the herd then to prep them for being together at my house... The owner said the doe was usually more passive than that, she said she's generally 5th in command with just the babies below her...
Also, the doe was slightly skinny. The owner said she had just gotten her back from a pasture boarding situation that had worked out in previous years but apparently not this year. She showed me all her goats that had been in that situation and they were all a bit skinny. She was miffed about it and said that they had been steadily gaining in the 2 weeks since they'd been back from that pasture...
I think I found some goats...maybe.
Tell me what you think!