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post #11 of 50 Old 03-11-2014, 11:07 PM
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Omg. So adorable!
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Don't listen to db downer. I imagine it is difficult to say what the longevity of cattle really is, simply b/c the majority do not die of old age. It would surprise me if mini cattle didn't, in fact, live a bit longer. You got her for a good price and will get your feet wet. I think it is great! And, exciting for you and DD!!

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Missy May if livestock producers could make a profit on an older cow they would retain them. A cow that can produce a good calf is a valuable asset to any herd. We cull them becuase as they age calving becomes more of a problem, the calves are not as healthy and vigorous, their milk production decreases, they can't chew or digest as well. It is hard to keep weight on them while they nurse the calf.
Those are facts anyone with any experience with cattle knows.
I am giving flygap sound advice.
A 15 year old cow IMO is the equivalent of a 24 year old broodmare.
Hopefully flygap you can get a calf or two out of this cow. Minis are very much in demand for owners of small acreages.
I saw a herd of minature longhorns that was too cute. Those jersey minis are simply adorable. Shalom
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Missy May if livestock producers could make a profit on an older cow they would retain them. A cow that can produce a good calf is a valuable asset to any herd. We cull them becuase as they age calving becomes more of a problem, the calves are not as healthy and vigorous, their milk production decreases, they can't chew or digest as well. It is hard to keep weight on them while they nurse the calf.
Those are facts anyone with any experience with cattle knows.
I am giving flygap sound advice.
A 15 year old cow IMO is the equivalent of a 24 year old broodmare.
Hopefully flygap you can get a calf or two out of this cow. Minis are very much in demand for owners of small acreages.
I saw a herd of minature longhorns that was too cute. Those jersey minis are simply adorable. Shalom
I have been around a cow or two in my day, db downer, but never minis. Fly has bought the cow for a good price, and she is excited and rightfully so. No point in enumerating potential problems...it will all go fine for her.

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And when it *doesn't* "all go fine"?

Pretending that problems don't exist won't make them go away.

I know several people that bought older, pregnant cows and as soon as their baby was weaned sent the cow to auction. It was a relatively inexpensive way for them to start establishing a herd.

It's a gamble though and you don't always win. Georgie the steer in my freezer, his Momma kicked the bucket when he was a week old. She was older and the stress of yet another calf did her in. His owner couldn't care for him, so he ended up over here.

I'm not saying I wouldn't consider an older cow but I sure as heck wouldn't wade in or "oh, it'll be fine...". I don't even do that with YOUNG cows! You better believe that there's a bottle, a pouch of colostrum supplement and a bag of milk replacer sitting on my dining room table along with a couple different antibiotics and vitamin supplements. We're mid-way through calving at my place and I'm hoping for the best and ready for the worst (already had to haul one calf inside to warm up and force feed).
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Missy May if you and I do not share our knowledge of cattle with our friend flygap what kind of friend would we be.
Both of us have conversed with her for years and in that time she has not been shy about voicing her opinion and IMO she expects honest direct answers.
I am glad she bought the cow and I hope she gets that heifer without any complications. Then she and I will have something else in common to counter our political differences. Just like you and I. LOL Shalom
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I just love you guys!

Thank you all for the VERY sound advice!

Yes I know we are taking a gamble. Hopefully it'll pay off as she's bred and registered out the WAZOO and the future calf too. Thankfully it's a spring calf so I won't have to worry about ( so much, del I'll be prepared, thank you! I need a list of what exactly to get for a cow I only really know about deer and goats....) this horrific winter.
I'll be putting her in the foaling barn with a paddock to roam and doubt I'll have a restful night once she gets here...
I've read and heard conflicting reports on their calving. Some say minis calf easier, the lady I'm purchasing her from say they are harder because they are little bricks instead of long legged normal calves... I'll go with her assessment. But this is an experienced cow that has never had a problem and produces BREATHTAKING babies... Better than an unproven heifer maybe?

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I have a longhorn cow that was 16 when we bought her and still calving healthier calves than some of our other cows did this time around.. she's 19 now and still lovely.. :)
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I have a longhorn cow that was 16 when we bought her and still calving healthier calves than some of our other cows did this time around.. she's 19 now and still lovely.. :)
Longhorns are like arabian horses , hardy and live longer productive lives than other breeds. I know of a longhorn cow that is 23 and produced over 20 calves.
If they were more suited to commercial production I would raise them instead of Santa Gertrudas. Shalom
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I just love you guys!

Thank you all for the VERY sound advice!

Yes I know we're taking a (insane) gamble. Hopefully it'll pay off as she's bred and registered out the WAZOO and the future calf too. Thankfully it's a spring calf so I won't have to worry about ( so much, Del I'll be prepared, thank you! I need a list of what exactly to get for a cow I only really know about deer and goats.... I have family to help but... HA HA!.) this horrific winter.
I'll be putting her in the foaling barn with a paddock to roam and doubt I'll have a restful night once she gets here...
I've read and heard conflicting reports on their calving. Some say minis calf easier, the lady I'm purchasing her from say they're harder because they're little bricks instead of long legged normal calves... I'll go with her assessment. But this is an experienced cow that has never had a problem and produces BREATHTAKING babies... Better than an unproven heifer maybe????
She won't be our last, we have plans to get more... Eventually.

I'm growing fodder as we speak to have ready. That'll increase her milk production and improve her longevity/conception. Will introduce it slowly. She is in tip top condition so no worries there. This breeder is absolutely phenomenal and I was SUPER impressed with her custom setup and professionalism. She's got champions in all the listings and despite nature, which we are fully aware of and have been warned about, we/she don't think she'll have any issues.

If we only get one calf out of her, like Missy said, that's ok. :)
We got a REALLY good deal and are thankful, for sure!

I only have 10/15 good acres up here and this breed is a godsend. I have access to more but that is a hassle. So we shall see.

I've been researching futures and livestock prices for ages and know with useable farm land being eaten up and difficult small farm hurdles (them vs large corps) and the fact that the average age of the farmer being around 70... We are in trouble. Beef is speculated to go up to $6 or more per pound this fall, it's at all time records now! I have good friends in the business making good on fall finish calves, same for y'all?
I'm going to be able to finish my cattle out on only .04 a pound plus whatever I grow extra in the orchard/gardens. Not too shabby. My friends are paying .12 a pound and getting 30%, plus culls and dealing with disease. I'm going to TRY and do better. Ha ha, with only one cow now! :)
If miss moo needs to go in the freezer I'm prepared. Wouldn't be happy, devastated, but such is life. I'll make her final years blessed and as healthy as possible. :)

I agree she's old, why I got such a "good deal", but if I can I'll make it work! Y'all know I'm no quitter! :P
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