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        03-13-2014, 01:36 AM
      #31
    Trained
    Well, this isn't something to have on hand, and this is just from personal observation, but dry and warm (more importantly dry, though) conditions when they calve and directly after seems to increase their chances a lot.
         
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        03-13-2014, 02:35 AM
      #32
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    All our cattle calf in the open rain sleet snow or hail.
    They are a lot tougher than you think. We have lost very few to weather conditions.
    I would not interfere unless something was wrong and most likely you will miss the birth. Cattle are even more shy than horses about this matter.
    We don't use iodine or any disinfectant. Mainly because our cattle are semi wild and the cow will stomp you to death if you come near her calf If it is a bull and you want to make it a steer band him early .
    That calf wont budge for hours at a time its first few days. They are not like foals. Their best defense is to lay still.
    I would be concerned about an older cow calving.
    I am glad that you bought her and good luck. Shalom
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        03-13-2014, 02:36 AM
      #33
    Foal
    "Other than iodine, chains, towels, milk supplement/bottle, what do you all suggest to have on hand in case there's trouble?"


    Ck out a dairy around you and have a quart of frozen colostrum on hand---having it available will probably ensure it never being needed!!!!:)

    The best of luck---i am excited for you!!!
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        03-13-2014, 03:41 AM
      #34
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    Well, db, maybe I should have made myself more clear and like I said it is purely personal observation. Range cattle in AZ, NM, NV calve just fine in snow, rain (never have seen in "sleet"), all on their own and alone, yes - but it is "dry" for all intense and purposes. This compared to the southeast (for my observations, included NC, TN) where, when it rains/snows it can be really "wet", damp, whatever you want to call it and the ground seems to really retain moisture. There just seems to this observer to be a higher "percent" (which is low, so "percent" is on your side) of complications in wet damp conditions.
         
        03-13-2014, 04:27 AM
      #35
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    Missy May our farm is not in west or south Texas. It is on the edge of the blackland prairie . Blackland retains moisture. We have humidity and our snow is wet not dry. This causes mud that will suck the shoes off your feet. Flygap lives in Arkansas not 200 miles from where I live.
    Cattle evolved on the open range. They can endure extreme weather conditions. Herefords are tolerant of heat and cold. That is one of the reasons they are the most popular breed in this country. They survive and thrive in every region and in most types of weather.
    Herefords originated in England. Where it is very damp and often cold. Therefore neither damp or cold unless extreme should be a problem. I attended Texas A & M University at Commerce to get a BS in in animal husbandry after my brother and I inherited my families estate . I can pregnancy check and AI cattle . Just a few of my many talents. LOL Shalom
         
        03-13-2014, 12:42 PM
      #36
    Trained
    Yes, db. I am aware of the Hereford's hardiness and history. Most domestic cattle did not "evolve" on open range, btw, they were selectively bred - just saying.

    Everyone operates on the basis of their personal observations/feelings - and that is the cattle business - and we have established both our beliefs on the matter. If yours fair just as well in damp, wet, muddy conditions I am happy for your cows/calves. I'd rather see them hit the sand in low humidity conditions. A personal preference for reasons I have already stated.

    Meanwhile, I am sure fly's mama cow knows best and will do fine, and if she or her baby needs help, it sounds like Fly is going to mother hen it.
         
        03-13-2014, 01:17 PM
      #37
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    Ha ha, yes Missy I'll be a helicopter farmer, lol!

    But she'll be fine. I'm putting her in a small corral connected to the barn with an enormous foaling stall as her shelter. I think it's around 20x30.
    It used to have running water and electricity for a heat lamp but it's old and I took that all out, didn't want the barn to burn down and had the pipes burst once :(.

    We lost 6 chickens the other day and there have been two mountain lion sightings in the past couple months just below my mountain...
    So I'll have a dog out and MAY shut them up at night. Mamma Hen much? ;)

    One thing I've been "looking" for is a broke donkey... LOL! Allison's photo of her on one when she was a child has me wanting one for dd and to keep the cow safe... Broke donkeys are hard to find around here!

    I do have Cowboy DD's horse, more mine now, and he was used as a pasture guard. He's tough as nails and mean as a snake but I'm worried about him around a calf... Planning to keep them separate until the calf is 6 months or older.
    Thoughts?

    I'm looking for colostrum, thanks Equines.
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        03-13-2014, 01:57 PM
      #38
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    Well, at the risk of db countering that manure is a great bedding, keep it clean. If she has a ways to go yet, I would let her pasture just out of sheer laziness. :) That way you can keep the covered run area "clean" of manure and she is relaxed. But w a cat around...hmmm.

    A donkey! That is what I wanted, but got Jolene. :) How fun and useful! I actually found a nice pair at a rescue up north when I was looking - I was surprised they had them. You never know what you might find or where.

    Yeah, I would definitely keep them separate when the time comes, and a while after if they stay in the corral area. Since he was a pasture guard it is highly unlikely he will run them on pasture. But, 6 months seems overkill for pasture "sharing". But, you will "know".
         
        03-13-2014, 02:28 PM
      #39
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    :)

    Yeah, the last thing I have time to do right now is keep a stall and corral clean for an extra couple weeks. Hmmmm...
    I'm worried though that with the stress of mooooving (sorry couldn't help myself!) her so late in the pregnancy she might have it sooner than later... And I want to keep a close eye on her and not have to worry, as much with her in new surroundings. So putting her up is looking to be the safer option?

    I don't *think* it was a mountain lion that got my chickens, more likely a bobcat or coyotes hungry and braver than normal because of the cold winter... But whatever it was had some big ones to come in the yard. That and there is a massive bear causing problems with pushing down the electric poles...
    I'm starting to feel guilty for bringing a cow and calf home with all these "dangers"... Ugh.
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        03-13-2014, 02:34 PM
      #40
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    Get a donkey flygap. If you did not live so far away I would give you one or two of the 8 we have. I had 4 then someone dumped 3 more in the road and one foaled. All are pretty tame and you can even ride 2 of them.
    Down here auctions wont even take them they are so cheap and plentiful Shalom
         

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