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    03-03-2013, 12:18 AM
  #11
Green Broke
Yes a big cat will go after a horse. Happened to a friends and they live in the Mtns near me. Horse had claw marks all down her hind quarters. Blood everywhere. Guess the horse kicked the poo out of the cat, as it left, and the horse was a mustang mare 14.2 - 15 h . And yes it seems kinda mean to use the mini donkey as bait over your horse..
     
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    03-03-2013, 02:13 AM
  #12
Yearling
Wouldn't stalling a horse be more dangerous? What is to prevent a cougar from entering the stalls or would you have the stalls completely barred in?

I wouldn't think a donkey/mule would help unless the problem was coyotes.

What about guard dogs? I know they were using them in Africa to keep farmers from hunting down the big cats... Found the article:

BBC NEWS | Africa | Guard dogs save Namibian cheetahs
     
    03-03-2013, 02:20 AM
  #13
Started
I bought my two horses from a lady near Rocky Mountain House, miles away from anything but trees and beasts.... All her horses and a couple of very aged ponies lived out 24/7 365. She had dogs as her guard animals which seems to be a pretty popular thing round here.

If it were me I would get a standard donkey as companion + guard, plus for my own peace of mind I would have a couple of big dogs that patrol the boundaries.

Which, on reflection, is exactly what I have! Whilst we are not in Cougar territory here I have a near neighbour who moved from mountains near Calgary. She had dogs and never had a problem with cougars.
     
    03-03-2013, 11:01 AM
  #14
Foal
I've been wondering about guard dogs instead (or perhaps in addition to). A friend of mine breeds some fantastic ones that are definitely outdoor dogs. Hmmm .... something else to think about (and spend $$$ on ...).
     
    03-03-2013, 12:09 PM
  #15
Showing
I believe the big cats don't care for the baying of hounds. I live in NW ON where we were told years ago that the nw cougar was extinct. It's not. They are not as large as the mtn. Cougar. Someone got a pic of two sniffing the tire on an suv. In Kenora ON.
     
    03-03-2013, 03:38 PM
  #16
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by PilatesGal    
I've been wondering about guard dogs instead (or perhaps in addition to). A friend of mine breeds some fantastic ones that are definitely outdoor dogs. Hmmm .... something else to think about (and spend $$$ on ...).
You might be able to pick up somebody suitable from the humane society in your area. That may or may not be cheaper than a breeder but you'd have the satisfaction of giving a dog or two a good home -- just make sure they're light on their feet so they can avoid horse hoofs or cougar claws
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    03-03-2013, 05:52 PM
  #17
Yearling
I know nothing of donkeys...
Where my family lives we have wolves, coyote, bears, and cougars. Our main problem would be the coyotes and wolves. We haven't lost anything yet to either of those knock on wood. We lost a couple chickens to foxes. We have two neighbors that raise sheep and they both have Great Pyrenees dogs. Two of my sisters just got into sheep last year and we also have a GP, she is going on 9 years old and is going deaf and getting arthritis. We're going to have to get a puppy again soon.
We run cows, horses, sheep, and chickens. Besides of having lots of kids always running around the place. My brother was out checking the fence line and found a lot of wolf tracks (we are one mile from the Porcupine Provincial Forest), but he also found our dog's well beaten trail up to the area from her going out there every day.
I know of two people that have had cougars go for the livestock up there, one was a yearling horse (horse survived) and the other a calf (not sure about whether it survived or not).
I am a big supporter of having a dog. I personally love the GP, but there are many good breeds out there.
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    03-03-2013, 11:04 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by PilatesGal    
I've been wondering about guard dogs instead (or perhaps in addition to). A friend of mine breeds some fantastic ones that are definitely outdoor dogs. Hmmm .... something else to think about (and spend $$$ on ...).
I'm sure your friends dogs are lovely, but having just acquired another dog I do feel compelled to tell you that the Edmonton Humane Society is overflowing with gorgeous wannabe-your-loyal-guard-companion dogs. As it sadly seems is most of Alberta

But I'm absolutely not preaching what you should do, just wanted to chuck that in there
     
    03-15-2013, 11:50 AM
  #19
Foal
Bah - I can't decide! So I've decided not to decide until we are moved in and I get a chance to talk to people. Daughter insists she WANTS to muck out stalls, so perhaps at first we'll do just that while I try to find a larger donkey. There just aren't any standard ones out there right now. Sigh! I did pass on the miniature donkey. And I have a girlfriend who is fostering a rescue dog that might just get along with my poor wimpy city dog (australian labradoodle - can you say coyote-bait??) and teach him to be a good farm dog
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    03-15-2013, 12:33 PM
  #20
Green Broke
Mucking out two stalls doesn't take very long.

You also run the risk of her horse not wanting to be stalled alone and then what... 4 large animals?

We stall the horses at night where I board and it's not a bad thing. Really easy to make sure each horse gets grain if they need it and if anyone gets injured/sick we can add meds. As a bonus, we schedule Vet/Farrier appts for early mornings so everyone is still in and no catching horses needed. It also means that if someone needs stall rest or it's horrifically icy outside that everyone is used to stalls and won't have a conniption about staying inside.
     

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