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    03-09-2014, 06:02 PM
  #21
Foal
I am giving my colt the benefit of the doubt here, he walks all around the roads all the time and while he gets excited sometimes he has never refused to go that direction. He actually likes it cause there is a farm w/ more horses there. I don't believe it is just him not wanting to leave his happy place at home.

I cannot seem to time it right so i'm outside w/ my camera turned on when I hear the sound. Peacocks could be a possibility for the sound, but would not explain the track and my horse's reaction. So.....
     
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    03-09-2014, 11:23 PM
  #22
Foal
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Originally Posted by cobra    
Hope this is the right section for this.....if not, feel free to move it.

Has anyone in middle Tennessee seen or heard of cougars or other big cats around??

I live in middle Tennessee, about 12 miles out in the country. We have lots of wildlife out here, the usual animals such as rabbits, turkeys, etc. We also have a pack of coyotes, idk how many for sure but I have seen at least 3-4 at night. I have been told by neighbors that there are also cougar(s) out here. A neighbor around the corner showed me a pic on their phone of a track by their creek. However, ask Wildlife management and they swear there are none.

I have a coming 3 yo colt. We often walk around the roads out here, and he has been well behaved if a bit 'prancey'. Nothing I would not expect from a young colt. Recently, he has been acting weird. He does not want to leave the yard and go on the road. He will shake and tremble, and stare across the road into the woods in the distance. He is looking toward the same area my neighbor took the pic of the track. He has seen coyotes before and still walked fine on the road, so I am inclined to think it is something different. I have also heard a noise that I cannot identify....sounds almost like 'help' but is clearly an animal call. If I can get it recorded when I hear it again I will upload it.

Sorry for the long post, but I need to figure out what I am dealing with, and how to handle it best. If anyone has any input or any ??s I can clarify, I would appreciate the help.
I'm out in northwest tn, outside of Paris. We don't have any wild cats at all out here, according to TWRA... But my uncle in big sandy has a bobcat living near them.

I'm lucky enough to live near trigger happy rednecks with a huge cattle ranch. We have coyote issues for a month or so every few years when logging gets bad and moves them in, but the incredibly friendly but quite dense neighbors usually wipe them out pretty fast. Actually our last pack came at the end of last year and had about 13-16 coyotes in it. Came in around November and were gone by December. I got one when we went out to hunt and I saw some chasing my boys, gave the neighbors a call, and my hunting was screwed for the week but you just really don't mess with my ponies..

Never messed with any cats, though, but you're probably in foothills and I wouldn't put it past something to wander down your way. Everything is desperate this year, so be careful... Even the coyotes are attacking horses and stuff they normally don't mess with out here, and hunting in huge packs. Keep your dogs and such locked up and an eye on your horses for sure. And turn the track in to TWRA, see what they think of it.
     
    03-15-2014, 10:05 PM
  #23
Foal
There are alot of cattle farms out here, one would think they would deal w/ the coyotes.....but perhaps there is a law against that here?? I'm not sure. At any rate, I know we have coyotes around. Ali hates dogs, so it may be nothing more than them.

If I had a pic of the print I would turn it in, but the neighbor never sent it to me. She tried once, but had no cell reception at the time - and I guess she forgot. It has been deleted from her phone already. :( Her foot was in the pic next to the print as reference re: size.

I had my camera out tonight and got this. Not the best recording, but here ya go.....

     
    03-15-2014, 10:32 PM
  #24
Green Broke
Emailed that to my animal expert father lol.

It's definitely not a coyote, or at least not the type we have around here!! It definitely sounds like a cat, in fact if I heard that with no prior knowledge I'd think it was just a bad recording of a house cat (sounds like that with prior knowledge too!)
     
    03-15-2014, 10:47 PM
  #25
Foal
It sounds like a cat to me as well, and it really is louder than it sounds from my recording - my camera is just a cheap one, lol. My kids and I were out on the porch, and it was dusk/dark when I recorded it. I know it's not coyotes, I have heard them yipping/howling many times. I have been told it may be peacocks, but it doesn't sound like the recordings I have heard of them. I will try for a better recording, if possible. Thanks for your input....
     
    03-15-2014, 11:02 PM
  #26
Green Broke
It sounds somewhat peacockish but just for the "whaaa whaaa" of the noise.Not exampling myself well. I don't think it is a peacock though. Not a bird, cat. I would say it's a wild cat, though they don't usually call like that, they're pretty silent.

A LOT of places do not recognize having cougars when they do. They won't admit it. They also have large ranges.
     
    03-16-2014, 03:49 AM
  #27
Foal
The good news is, that is definitely not a mountain lion. Their scream is a very distinct sound. So are their growls and hisses, for that matter. Even if it were a cat (and it sounds like a bird), it would be a small one. Mountain lions are decent-sized animals and don't make small, tinny sounds like that. They do purr, but you obviously wouldn't hear that unless you were quite close.

It sounds like a peacock to me. Peacocks can make a wide range of sounds, including a truly bizarre one that sounds like a door buzzer. Their "voices" can also vary a bit from bird to bird, as I found when I chose a barn with several dozen peacocks in residence (not intentionally; they're squatters). I suppose it could also be a fox but I have less experience with their sounds. I've lived near mountain lions and peacocks but not foxes.

Since you are nervous and anticipating a mountain lion when you head that direction, I wouldn't be surprised if the horse is picking up your alarm. It is unlikely that a mountain lion would hang out in the same spot without a kill or a den, which would mean plenty of evidence of its presence. The horse doesn't know where the track was found, but you do.

They're not bad, anyway. They live all over in California and with all of the urban sprawl we run into them (and bears, but that's beside the point). Every now and then a young or injured animal tries out going after joggers or bikers out of desperation but for the most part they keep to themselves. I used to see and hear them around my house before I moved. It was not a set territory for any one animal so they would pass through. I once scared off a young one loitering behind my house by flinging open the slider and hollering at him. You'd have thought I was after him by the way he took off.
     
    03-16-2014, 08:47 AM
  #28
Started
Sounds like a peacock. I used to have a pair. Even had people stop and see if I was ok because they thought it sounded like a woman yelling for help.
     
    03-16-2014, 09:14 AM
  #29
Trained
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Originally Posted by SueNH    
Sounds like a peacock. I used to have a pair. Even had people stop and see if I was ok because they thought it sounded like a woman yelling for help.
We have red fox around here and they are the same way. They have the loudest, shrillest cry I've ever heard for such a small animal.
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    03-16-2014, 08:23 PM
  #30
Green Broke
I do think it sounds like a cat, however it does make more sense for it to be a peacock.

Maybe I'm dumb but all I read was your neighbor took a picture of a print. I would find any more info, what sort of print?

I would put my detective cap on and go sleuthing.. Ask around see if anyone has peacocks. It may be the noise making him nervous since it doesn't sound like a bird, and of course you are on edge too.

Do peacocks typically call during the dark? What time was that video taken? Is the cry only at night? In that case it would NOT make more sense for it to be a peacock. And I would be back to saying cat.
     

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