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    06-20-2012, 04:19 PM
  #31
Green Broke
That is why I'm a garden forum member. Most Americans as SO DETACHED from the land, now, with >80% living in and around big cities, that we just don't know enough to start. There are many flowers--iris, sunflowers, knock-out roses, marigolds--that are easy to grow, and many vegetables--tomatoes, cucumbers, potatoes, zucchini squash--that are also easy to grow. When you start with the hard stuff, you fail and get discouraged. THEN, there is the soil and composting. There are SO MANY ARTICLES online to read, and they aren't hard to find.
Basically, I recommend tilling your soil with manure and compost, which you can make with all of the stuff Americans cut off of vegetables and fruit and throw away in a landfill, and doing SOMETHING to keep from walking all over it, so that the plants have airy spaces to dig their roots.
Learn to mulch with things like grass clippings (try not to put the ones in that have grass seeds, if you can) and stall leavings, and you'll be pretty successful. BELIEVE ME, many gardeners are super jealous of horse owners and their free manure!!
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    06-20-2012, 04:21 PM
  #32
Trained
*hangs head in shame*
I burnt up my pastures last year and now all I have ARE BERRY BUSHES!!!
I'm so mad I refuse to pick them (well in bunches, I nibble on and cuss them when messing with the horses). They will meet their death this fall...
     
    06-20-2012, 04:23 PM
  #33
Showing
Yes to the worms! We have a worm box. Never go to the bait shop if I want to toss a line in the pond :) We put rabbit poop in it, and we put some food scrap in there too and with this heat wet newspaper on top of the soil.

I never thought to use the worm poop as fertilizer. Going to have to research that!
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    06-20-2012, 04:25 PM
  #34
Green Broke
MWA, HA, HA!!
Make sure you mulch 'em into the ground. I'll check on what they add, but I'm pretty sure they'll add to your soil.
Don't sweat it. I've been fighting burdock and thistles. Monday, I stayed home and mowed down these and the other weeds in 2 of my pastures, and got a little bit of heat exhaustion--AARRRGGHHHH!!!!
I kept them from going to seed early, though, and the population is lower than last year.
**Corporal is awaiting the opening of the berry bush killer movie**
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    06-20-2012, 05:01 PM
  #35
Trained
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
That is why I'm a garden forum member. Most Americans as SO DETACHED from the land, now, with >80% living in and around big cities, that we just don't know enough to start. There are many flowers--iris, sunflowers, knock-out roses, marigolds--that are easy to grow, and many vegetables--tomatoes, cucumbers, potatoes, zucchini squash--that are also easy to grow. When you start with the hard stuff, you fail and get discouraged. THEN, there is the soil and composting. There are SO MANY ARTICLES online to read, and they aren't hard to find.BELIEVE ME, many gardeners are super jealous of horse owners and their free manure!!
AMEN CORPORAL, AMEN!

We do some real estate on the side and sometimes I wanna beat my head in the wall. There have been times when I've shown a cute little mini farm vs a house in a subdivision with a postage stamp yard and one or the other spouse will insist that the miniscule farm would be too much "work".
I don't see putting fresh organic produce, organic eggs, fresh air, and farm raised animals in my family as work. It's my duty. And it's easy!

Efficiency is the key to laziness.
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    06-20-2012, 05:34 PM
  #36
Green Broke
Haha my moms already plannnig her picking and canning days!

We have 2 pear, 8 peach, 2 apricot, 4 cherry, 6 plum, 3 walnut and 4 apple trees
2 grape vines
And I believe she planted corn, squash, pumpkin, tomatoes, cucumbers, onions, carrots, cauliflower, jalepenos, strawberries, potatoes, spearmint and watermelon

I think its about a 3/4 acre garden and our trees are just spread out around the farm...
Definitely going to miss them when we move back to TX haha
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    06-20-2012, 11:09 PM
  #37
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
That is why I'm a garden forum member. Most Americans as SO DETACHED from the land, now, with >80% living in and around big cities, that we just don't know enough to start. There are many flowers--iris, sunflowers, knock-out roses, marigolds--that are easy to grow, and many vegetables--tomatoes, cucumbers, potatoes, zucchini squash--that are also easy to grow. When you start with the hard stuff, you fail and get discouraged. THEN, there is the soil and composting. There are SO MANY ARTICLES online to read, and they aren't hard to find.
Basically, I recommend tilling your soil with manure and compost, which you can make with all of the stuff Americans cut off of vegetables and fruit and throw away in a landfill, and doing SOMETHING to keep from walking all over it, so that the plants have airy spaces to dig their roots.
Learn to mulch with things like grass clippings (try not to put the ones in that have grass seeds, if you can) and stall leavings, and you'll be pretty successful. BELIEVE ME, many gardeners are super jealous of horse owners and their free manure!!
Yeah! What she said!
Minus the tilling part. I've moved into a no-till mindset now, but I used to till.

MHF- worm castings are like having crumbled black gold!
I studied a little vermiculture and would love to start a small scale operation, but alas... there is only one of me and not enough hours in a day!

Missy-
Pickled cactus ears huh? Sounds... um.... err... tasty (shudders and swallows down a little rising bile.)

I'll take 10 bags of worm castings please!
Oh, and feel free to come mow my lawn anytime the mood strikes you. I have plenty... too much in fact, I had to reduce the "mow area" tremendously as I can't afford the gas to run the mower, nor the time to mow daily. It is one of my most hated chores! I'm allergic and have to wear a mask like some nut and passer bys stare at me. Lawns ain't all they are cracked up to be which is why the garden is ever expanding. The more I grow the less I have to mow!

You know, I’ve been in high mountain desert areas before and I don’t recall seeing gardens or fat lazy flowers. Not a one.
I’m betting if you posted a photo we are all going to marvel and how you have been able to actually grow things from thin air since you have nothing to work with. I mean tomatoes and potatoes growing in rock….. ? Who ever heard of such a thing!
Come on… I’ll send you some cheesy covered popcorn if you do.
*mmmm… yummy… you know you want some*

Fly- Nuh uh girl..... no shame allowed here, even for pasture problems.
You did see the part where I mentioned my alpacas pulling up the grass, roots and all, right?
Well not only do I have bald spots (big ones) I now have a pokeweed problem in that pasture too. Da*n stuff grows 10 feet tall! I swear when I turn my back it is sticking it's tongue out at me going "neener neener!"
Grrr, hate the stuff.

At least it sounds like you did things the right way.
You fixed up the house before getting too settled in. Although my house wasn't empty as long as yours, it was (and still is) in need of major work. Problem is, I moved in first with all my stuff from a much bigger house since it was habitable (Hey, we LIKE old fashioned plumbing... not!) thinking I would get the must haves done immediately, like fencing for the animals that were on their way and a temp. Barn, then catch back up with the house.

Uh huh, sounded like a good idea at the time...

And just as soon as I can catch up with the never ending garden, barn, animal, child, business and life stuff I'm going to jump right on the to-do list. Yep... watch me, here I go...
(been saying that for a few years now... LOL)
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    06-21-2012, 12:25 AM
  #38
Trained
Oh, darn!!! My cameras all broke! :) THe sad little potatoe patch is suffering from heat...their leaves are starting to curl. They will produce, though...unless something goes terribly wrong, like packrats discover them. Maybe my cameras will work when I get some potatoes ;), and I can take some pics of the spuds and tomatoes I eventually get.

Yeah, worm poo - its wonderful stuff, Flygap...you don't need no stinking rabbits...horse poop will work. :) We have a rabbit - the result of having found someone's pet rabbit - and finally locating the owners. No one could believe it survived all the way from their house to ours. My daughter grew attatched, and was given a baby rabbit as a "thank you" for rescueing the dehydrated little lost bunny...I was afriad that might happen. A horse poops more in one "deposit" than they do in a month, and rabbit poo/urine stinks when it gets wet - the smell is akin to pig poo. I throw maybe a coffee can full into a worm bin - and all I can smell that stuff until it is covered over w nice smelling horse apples.

I use my worms as a "septic system" for horse poop in compost bins; the worms do go through it in record time relative to composting. Its kind of laborious to separate the worms from the castings, though. But worth it, they keep "things" nice and tidy.
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    06-21-2012, 12:52 AM
  #39
Trained
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Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
Yes to the worms! We have a worm box. Never go to the bait shop if I want to toss a line in the pond :) We put rabbit poop in it, and we put some food scrap in there too and with this heat wet newspaper on top of the soil.

I never thought to use the worm poop as fertilizer. Going to have to research that!
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Actually, worm castings is one of the best fertilizers there is. They haven't worked out entirely why it is so superior, pound for pound, to plain compost. It has to be used sparingly by volume, though....it is on the "super rich" side.
     
    06-21-2012, 12:45 PM
  #40
Trained
Lockwood, don't you eat your poke? Whack it down, wait till it shoots up, pick it small and fry it in bacon grease! YUM!!!!!
     

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