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        06-09-2014, 11:40 AM
      #11
    Foal
    A lot of "dealer" horses from that area do come with holes in their training from what I've seen. Luckily TWHs are willing learners and seem to be easy fixers most of the time.

    My two horses from TN came to me "green-broke" to trail ride, but the guy I bought them from also made sure they stood still to be mounted. I guess I got lucky?
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        06-09-2014, 06:20 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I traveled to Shelbyville in March and purchased my first TWH. For the first few rides, he would back up from the mounting block, then want to move on out as soon as I was in the saddle. I've worked a lot on mounting, and now he has really improved - he stands still and doesn't move off until I ask him. I spent the first weeks just working on the basics, and it has made a big difference.
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        06-13-2014, 01:21 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    Wow... It's not just mine...
    He came from TN too.
    I wonder if they're (not) trained like this intentionally...?

    I've been trying the technique where when he steps out of place, I make him walk around the mounting block and do it again. Every time he steps, he has to walk around the block.
    I was told that it's supposed to be annoying enough that after a few times, the horse should get sick of it and stand still.

    He could circle that stupid block for hours the little stinker.
    I always give up before he does, so it only gets worse.
    Ugh! I'm such a bad "trainer" :(
    Shame on me so much...
         
        06-13-2014, 01:38 AM
      #14
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by BadWolf    
    Wow... It's not just mine...
    He came from TN too.
    I wonder if they're (not) trained like this intentionally...?

    I've been trying the technique where when he steps out of place, I make him walk around the mounting block and do it again. Every time he steps, he has to walk around the block.
    I was told that it's supposed to be annoying enough that after a few times, the horse should get sick of it and stand still.

    He could circle that stupid block for hours the little stinker.
    I always give up before he does, so it only gets worse.
    Ugh! I'm such a bad "trainer" :(
    Shame on me so much...
    Don't make him just walk. Make him trot. Really move those feet. Then, let him rest in front of the mounting block. If he tries to move off again, make him MOVE. Then he gets to rest where you want him to stand. Pretty soon, he'll get the idea that moving away from the mounting block just means he has to work and standing where you want him to to be mounted is a whole heck of a lot easier.

    This isn't just a TWH thing. This is a poor training thing. Any horse will walk away from a mounting block unless they've been trained to stand at one. Same thing for mounting from the ground. Making the right thing (standing to be mounted, whether from the block or the ground) easy and the wrong thing (walking off) hard.

    Cesar Milan says something about dogs that I really think applies to horses as well. He says that too many times, people think about dogs as breed first, then as a dog. We should be thinking dog first, then breed, then individual. The same goes for horses. They are a horse first, then a specific breed.
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        06-13-2014, 02:08 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    Thank you :)
    That makes a lot of good sense.

    I could put him on a lunge line so it's easy to send him around real quick and then "reel him back in" to the block. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    Reasonable?
         
        06-13-2014, 01:09 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    I have been using that method, driving my mare around me if she doesn't stand. I do not use a lunge line, just a 6 foot lead. I drive her around me in a tight circle, prob about 10 times, or until I get dizzy lol. Yes it is uncomfortable for her to move quickly in such a small circle, but that is the point. After a few times doing that, she is generally ready to stand.
    I appreciate all of the replies!
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        06-13-2014, 04:25 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    Not standing to be mounted or to stand while mounted is a training problem not a horse problem. Unfortunately you see that alot in shot gun trained horses. Make sure all equipment fits well to a T and then go on to retraining. There are several good techniques and I will offer some but I am currently on a time constraint. It just takes time and consistency.
         
        06-13-2014, 06:41 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    I never believed in driving my horses around to wear them out to stand still.

    I do believe in the premise that "I have until midnight - how long you choose to take, is up to you.

    I will walk the horse in a circle; not the same as driving the horse, even though the principle is the same.

    It is not good for a Walking Horse to be driven in tight circles - their shoulders are built for large sweeping movements.

    I like that phrase "shotgun trained" - sums things up nicely - two of my three TWH's were like that when I bought them. However, I have always ridden bareback so they needed to learn to stand stock still no matter what ungodly place I decided to plant them so I could get back on

    One took longer than the other one because "the other one" still asks "why!?" to most things and he's been with me nearly 18 years.

    The third TWH was most likely also a mover when the previous owners rescued him but, they worked and worked to rehab him and I'm sure standing still was part of the rehab.

    This is the TWH that took me the longest to teach to stand still. He had not seen a bridle in three years, when this pic was taken. His legs and head were thinking about moving but he understands what "NAH!" means, so love him, he never moved. He is not mentally capable of just standing there without thinking something he should not be thinking



    At any rate, circle the horse long enough, don't let it put its head down for grass, it will get pretty bored and decide to stand still. It may take awhile but patience prevails
         
        06-13-2014, 07:37 PM
      #19
    Foal
    I need I work my paint mare on standing still wile mounting, she's getting really bad about that, and I prefer to ride bareback as well so getting her next to something and stay there is a challenge :3
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        06-13-2014, 08:00 PM
      #20
    Showing
    Badwolf, gaited horses have a difficult time moving in a small circle because of the way they move. If mine were to start moving when mounting I'd back him up hard from the ground looking at him as tho I'm planning murder. Twice is usually enough with most horses of any breed.
         

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