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post #21 of 46 Old 09-04-2013, 12:11 PM
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The TWH that I rode for years had the most beautiful canter on the planet. It was smooth and wonderful and he never missed a lead.
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post #22 of 46 Old 09-04-2013, 02:12 PM Thread Starter
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My other walker that I sold, had a beautiful canter!! He was more on the pacey side though. When he did a running walk it was nice. He was a lot lazier then this guy though.
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post #23 of 46 Old 09-04-2013, 02:29 PM
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My walker seemed to have several gaits. Walk, running walk, canter, and one more that resembled a washing machine that is off balance. It was a cross between a pace and a general mess. I could push him forward and he would go into the canter. He usually didn't do the washing machine thing; when he did it was not too much fun. As long as I rode him often, he would do a really nice canter.

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post #24 of 46 Old 09-05-2013, 08:19 AM Thread Starter
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Lol, yes Celeste!! That is exactly how I would describe what both of mine, the one I sold and this one, feels like!!! Very uncomfortable!!
I worked with him again last night. Paying attention to my balance, trying not to lean forward(I do tend to do that). We went to the round pen first and I did get some pics of his movement. Even in the round pen, I guess he does have trouble getting into and staying in a canter w/o a rider :/ He rushes into and acts like he really doesn't want to do it....I wish I could get a video of him...He just gets all nervous because I have to bring up my energy to get him into it and then he thinks he is in trouble, so it's like he gets scared and races into it. I didn't get any pics of him cantering though because it was hard to hold the camera and get him into it. Maybe from these pics you can help me too on what gaits he is doing and how his saddle looks. This is the one I always use on him!


My 11 yr old daughter riding him.



So yeah, today I am just going to work on him in the round pen getting him in a relaxed canter in there. Any advice on that???
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Not to be a bubble buster, BUT there are some things you should be aware of that no one has even mentioned.

This horse's conformation is prone to pace. If you have a good running walk, be a very good idea to keep it. The more you work him for the canter the more he will tend to pace and canter and NOT want to do the running walk.

Couple of things preventing him from wanting to do a consistent canter. One, look at the angle of his front feet, WAY, WAY to low. That alone will make it difficult to maintain a consistent canter. That is fixable with some heal growth and a farrier. TWO, is not fixable. He is a down hill horse, ie, his rear is higher than his front. This makes him front end heavy and makes getting those legs up for the canter very difficult.

If he has a good slow running walk, I'd consider your self lucky and keep it, and forget the canter. The smooth cantering TWH are almost always up hill horses. Up hill horses are more athletic and able to give you the light front end canter.
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Not to be a bubble buster, BUT there are some things you should be aware of that no one has even mentioned.

This horse's conformation is prone to pace. If you have a good running walk, be a very good idea to keep it. The more you work him for the canter the more he will tend to pace and canter and NOT want to do the running walk.

Couple of things preventing him from wanting to do a consistent canter. One, look at the angle of his front feet, WAY, WAY to low. That alone will make it difficult to maintain a consistent canter. That is fixable with some heal growth and a farrier. TWO, is not fixable. He is a down hill horse, ie, his rear is higher than his front. This makes him front end heavy and makes getting those legs up for the canter very difficult.

If he has a good slow running walk, I'd consider your self lucky and keep it, and forget the canter. The smooth cantering TWH are almost always up hill horses. Up hill horses are more athletic and able to give you the light front end canter.
It is complete and utter bunk that work at the canter will damage the running walk. Indeed, the opposite is true. The canter will add wind and improve a running walk. This is especially true if you're dealing with a horse that is prone to lateral gaits.

It is quite true that the more lateral the horse the more difficult the canter will be in the beginning. Horses are often like water; they tend to take the path of least resistance. This means that since the canter is difficult, and the gait relatively more easy, they will take the gait route left to their own devices. This just means the rider has to be smarter than the horse. The rider must make the canter easier than not cantering.

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Ok thank you. What about his confo makes him built like a pacer? Is it that he is downhill or ?
I really need to get a video. I mean I'm pretty sure he is doing a running walk. Like I said I am still learning about the breed. I have no plans to show him and only trail ride. I just want him to be smooth and I love his disposition. I ride with my daughter who rides a QH and she canters so I like to canter with her. I guess it doesn't matter. He does canter nice on trails most of the time. He cantered better today in the round pen! Then we trail rode and only flat walked. He just does not canter well in the arena, but I think that is from me getting off balance. So need to work on that!
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Cantering matters to me because I like to canter.

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"It is complete and utter bunk that work at the canter will damage the running walk. Indeed, the opposite is true."

That is true with some up hill THW(not all). With down hill horses, it is not that you'll damage the running walk. You'll condition the wrong muscles, then it just gets harder and harder for them to do the running walk. BEEN THERE DONE THAT, all too many times, before anyone was willing to tell us why.

If you want more speed to keep up with the daughter, teach him to rack. Much, Much, more agreeable with his conformation. I would not let this horse canter 2 steps. Wrong gait for him.

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"It is complete and utter bunk that work at the canter will damage the running walk. Indeed, the opposite is true."
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That is true with some up hill THW(not all). With down hill horses, it is not that you'll damage the running walk. You'll condition the wrong muscles, then it just gets harder and harder for them to do the running walk. BEEN THERE DONE THAT, all too many times, before anyone was willing to tell us why.

If you want more speed to keep up with the daughter, teach him to rack. Much, Much, more agreeable with his conformation. I would not let this horse canter 2 steps. Wrong gait for him.

There is nothing wrong with this horses conformation to canter. The OP said the horse will canter on the trail but not in the arena. This statement tells me its a balance issue.
As for the heels on the horse, it's hard to tell from these pics but the one on page 2 standing without a rider shows no heels and long toes but the pics with a rider shows more heel but again, it's hard to tell and yes, this could make it hard for the horse to canter if its creating pain.
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