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  • Why do the big lick riders ride hunched over

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    06-05-2013, 09:55 AM
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http://media.timesfreepress.com/news...yd27letter.pdf

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http://www.twhbea.com/News%202012/13StatementFromPresBoyd0527.php

5/27/13

A Statement from TWHBEA President Tracy Boyd
     
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    06-05-2013, 10:06 AM
  #12
Yearling
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
^^ Where is "here" that a 48oz (3#!!) shoe is legal? That seems like a LOT of weight.
It is a lot of weight. It is the maximum shoe allowed under the HPA Regulations. Usually there is also a band to keep this shoe on the foot.

G.
     
    06-05-2013, 10:07 AM
  #13
Green Broke
I just pulled up a video of Champagne Watchout, who I had never heard of until just now, as I am not familiar with much in the gaited world. I don't know about pads in that photo from the article, it certainly looks like SOMETHING is on his feet, but I have to say it was a pleasure to watch a horse moving properly in a class alongside those monstrosities that were created with heavy pads and weights and spring. He was balanced and natural-looking, and his rider was able to sit up tall and balanced. It made for an overall pretty picture. The other horses in the class flinging their feet to the sky with riders hunched over on their backs looked like vultures in comparison. I have to give her extreme kudos for being brave enough to not follow the mainstream.
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    06-05-2013, 10:53 AM
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Can Horse Sports Face

And a much related article about horse sports in general.
     
    06-05-2013, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SueNH    
Can Horse Sports Face

And a much related article about horse sports in general.
The sad thing is, so many in the "gaited horse" world of show horses have talked themselves into believing that what they do to the horses is totally normal and acceptable. They claim it's the way things have ALWAYS been done, and because they may have grown up in a "show horse family" they have seen it done the same way and never had reason to believe there was anything wrong with it. Those trainers often have clients who know very little about caring for horses - they just want to own a "champion show horse."

The trainers aren't going to say to those clients "well, I'll be honest with you. . .we use some methods that cause the horse discomfort in order to achieve the desired movement. . .but it is what wins ribbons and trophies."

They still claim "the movement is natural" but I have yet to see ANY performance/Big Lick horse, with all pads and weights and chains and chemicals removed, that still moves with as much action.

I've always admired David O'Connor (and his wife Karen). They are amazing, talented equestrians but also excellent, classy people. The horse world needs more people like them.
     
    06-05-2013, 02:33 PM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by SueNH    
http://media.timesfreepress.com/news...yd27letter.pdf

5/27/13

A Statement from TWHBEA President Tracy Boyd
From the statement:
"TWHBEA has no say over the padded show horse. TWHBEA has no control over the padded show horse. TWHBEA has no authority over the padded show horse. TWHBEA, does however, bear the brunt of the criticism aimed at the padded show horse. Our membership numbers are directly affected by the controversy. The group with the least input takes the hardest hit. Why? Because as the breed registry and the largest membership driven organization, we are the face of the breed and are perceived as its ultimate authority in the world equine community."

They have no control? Really? I find that hard to believe. Doesn't the TWHBEA set the rules for their shows? I am not familiar with the organizational structure of this breed so I am asking these questions because I really don't know. In my breed the national association(s) set the rules for their shows. If the TWHBEA doesn't have any say over the "padded show horse", who does?
     
    06-05-2013, 03:23 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by xlntperuvian    
From the statement:
"TWHBEA has no say over the padded show horse. TWHBEA has no control over the padded show horse. TWHBEA has no authority over the padded show horse. TWHBEA, does however, bear the brunt of the criticism aimed at the padded show horse. Our membership numbers are directly affected by the controversy. The group with the least input takes the hardest hit. Why? Because as the breed registry and the largest membership driven organization, we are the face of the breed and are perceived as its ultimate authority in the world equine community."

They have no control? Really? I find that hard to believe. Doesn't the TWHBEA set the rules for their shows? I am not familiar with the organizational structure of this breed so I am asking these questions because I really don't know. In my breed the national association(s) set the rules for their shows. If the TWHBEA doesn't have any say over the "padded show horse", who does?
It is possible that he is technically correct. Historically, the old show organization (NSHC) was a triumvirate of the TWHBEA, WHOA, and WHTA. I don't know how the new SHOW organization is structured. No matter how it is, though, the TWHBEA swings a really big stick 'cause they have all the money, the VOICE, and have a big membership base. So the "we're innocent" plea is pretty hollow.

They have also defended officers and directors with long histories of HPA violations and kept them in office. Recent events may have changed some of this, but those changes seem little more than cosmetic.

Right now, since TWHBEA is the "big dog" in the fight, they are taking the hits. In reality they are only reaping what they have sown over the years.

G.
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    06-05-2013, 03:39 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by Guilherme    
Right now, since TWHBEA is the "big dog" in the fight, they are taking the hits. In reality they are only reaping what they have sown over the years.

G.
For as long as I've known, the TWHBEA has heavily promoted the "Big Lick" image as the epitome of the Tennessee Walking Horse. . .their magazine The Voice was loaded with ads and photos and articles of performance horses, their web site was full of photos of Big Lick horses.

Those of us who "just trail rode" or had flat-shod horses were treated like an afterthought. Kind of a "hey, thanks for registering your horse with us and paying the fees and stuff. . .now, away with you, peons!"

Not surprisingly, a lot of us "natural-gaited, trail riding" peons HAVE left. Quit our memberships, and gone on to other things with our horses.

What amazes me is how the TWHBEA leadership actually seems surprised that all those years of standing behind the Big Lick and turning a blind eye to the issues of abuse are finally catching up to them.
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    07-01-2013, 02:53 AM
  #19
Foal
For this reason, I haven't had my boy registered under my name. I have heard a load of **** over it, about losing value of my horse, and not being able to show him. I have no interest in showing with this organization. I have no interest in giving them money. That is all
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    07-01-2013, 10:00 AM
  #20
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I think not registering the horse only hurts HIM. He deserves his papers. I would register him without becoming a member, although I became a member again to transfer my current horse.

At least that ghastly magazine no longer shows up in my mailbox!!

Nancy
     

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