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post #1 of 63 Old 09-25-2012, 09:28 AM Thread Starter
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Bits ..this will make y'all mad

Ok so some of you know my situating with my horse. Now i am back at the place and he is improving leaps and bounds. Now the trainer the barn owner and everyone there ,we are talking 50 boarders at least use double twisted wire bits.
They have me riding in one. Because at this point i am listening to everything they say.

What is cruel about double twisted wire? Does it hurt? Does it rub? ive seen post before where some of you have jumped on people for using those bits so im wondering why
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post #2 of 63 Old 09-25-2012, 11:53 AM
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take the bit, put it in the crook of your elbow (the soft spot on the inside), bend your arm and pull the reins against the bend. tell me if that feels pleasant to you or if there is any pinching, etc. that should give you an idea of how it feels in your horses mouth.

i am not a fan of wire bits, especially double twisted wire, and would never use one. that's just me.

there are plenty of bit threads on the forum that will give you more information about this particular type of bit.
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post #3 of 63 Old 09-25-2012, 12:29 PM
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I'd find it suspicious that pretty much everyone in a barn was using the same strong bit.
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I stand by what I think. I see nothing wrong with using a twisted wire bit as long as you are soft with your hands and your horse is happy. Two of our horses that my family owns rides in a twisted wire. My cousin's mare rides in a twisted wire snaffle and she does fine in it, likes it, and doesn't resent the bit, and my own gelding rides in a twisted wire shanked bit and he likes it better than any snaffle I've ever used on him.

If your horse is happy, and if your horse is performing well, I say ''don't fix what isn't broken''. I'm probably going to get completely flamed for posting that, but that's my opinion.
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In the instances that I have met people in person that use a double twisted wire bit, it has been because they were trying to cover up a training issue instead of going back and working on it. I'm not saying that's *always* the case, but it has been my experience so.

My trainer and several other people that I know do use a single twisted wire bit to fine tune a horse, but do not use it as their main bit. As they are very quiet and light in the hands and know what they are doing, I don't see a problem with it. I, however, would not feel comfortable using one myself.
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I don't mind a single twisted snaffle with a light touch... if you are prone to pulling too much on your horse's mouth, I think this can be a very bad idea. A DOUBLE twisted, I don't believe is ever warranted. In 25 years I've never had to use one on any horse. Showing, training, or breaking. Never. I find it a bit worrisome that so many at that barn are using them. Concerns me for the training techniques of these trainers.

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Ok so some of you know my situating with my horse. Now i am back at the place and he is improving leaps and bounds. Now the trainer the barn owner and everyone there ,we are talking 50 boarders at least use double twisted wire bits.
They have me riding in one. Because at this point i am listening to everything they say.

What is cruel about double twisted wire? Does it hurt? Does it rub? ive seen post before where some of you have jumped on people for using those bits so im wondering why
So he is improving by leaps and bounds and yet you are questioning the bit????
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So he is improving by leaps and bounds and yet you are questioning the bit????
Yes.Only because i have seen everyone talk about how bad they are.I just didnt know why.
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i love how people on here are always trying to catch in something..makes me really hate this forum sometimes.
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Diegosmom, we do not try and 'catch into something' we simply try to educate ourselves fully on the situation.

Sounds to me personally, that a harsh bit is covering up a training issue.

I do not believe every horse can be ridden around in a loose snaffle, but I think that a bit like this is very extreme and not necessary. I am not personally aware of your situation, but you say he is improving in leaps and bounds - would you ride him in a lighter bit? If not, maybe that is saying something.
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