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        07-01-2014, 01:31 AM
      #1
    Foal
    Breed and Brand ID Help!

    Hey Guys,
    I was given this gelding several months back by his terminally ill owner. They got him from auction years ago and were told by the seller that he had been bought online from a ranch in FL sight unseen as a kid safe family horse but was being sold because the horse had some potentially dangerous fear issues. I have no clue if any of that story is true, he does have his issues but he is a great little horse and we love him anyways. They believed that he was a Quarter horse Fox Trotter cross but I think he might be a poorly gaited Peruvian Paso or possibly Peruvian cross by his overall look and movement. What do you guys think? I've attached a picture of him 'in gait' its more of a pace than a true paso llano but that isn't totally unheard of...

    The only clue to his origin is a large brand on his hip (Ill try to attach that one too). I'd love to know who he is and where he came from. Does anyone recognize this brand? We are in southern CA but as the story goes it could be a florida brand?

    Any help is VERY appreciated!
    Thanks!!
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        07-02-2014, 08:26 AM
      #2
    Green Broke
    The best you might do, in tracking down, that brand, is to hope it was registered with the state the horse was earning a living in.

    Google "livestock brands in ______________ and fill in the state.

    If you think the horse was branded in Florida, then start with Florida.

    If the brand wasn't registered, you're up the creek in that regard

    As far as what breed(s) the horse might be. That depends how far you want to pursue that and how legitimate DNA testing is.

    There's a lady on another forum who got one of her horses DNA tested. She had to guess at the breeds it might be. I thought she'd made some accurate guesses but, when she posted the DNA results back, they weren't anything near what I thought that horse resembled.

    Meaning, I don't know how much stock to put in DNA testing when it comes to learning what breeds might have gone into a horse.

    If you're happy with the horse and the horse seems to be healthy, while it's always good to know history, sometimes it's the better part of valor to not open up Pandora's Box
         
        07-04-2014, 05:16 PM
      #3
    Weanling
    You may want to contact the Florida Cracker Horse Registry. Here is the web site: Florida Cracker Horse Association

    The brand could be nearly anything esp if its private and not registered. However it looks to me to be a fancy F with some sort of filigree under it. (No I don't think this has anything to do with the Florida Cracker Horse breed but it might be a start).

    The Florida Cracker Horse has been around for a very long time but was almost lost during the Depression and they have Spanish background and often do carry various gaits. Ambling is one of the more common gait of the FCH.

    Good Luck.
         
        07-04-2014, 05:43 PM
      #4
    Green Broke
    Your guy does have a passing resemblance to a Quarter Horse just based on that photo. The head shape, rump shape and body carriage look about right. It would be cool to see a conformation photo of him and know his height (most Pasos I have seen are not super tall). Most pasos I have seen are more spanish looking too, as far as the sloping rump and arched neck. Then again, that is hard to evaluate in that particular photo.

    I have a QH/Fox Trotter cross and he's diagonally gaited, not lateral. I'm kind of on the fence on whether he is actually gaited or not. He has a flat walk and a "kinda" fox trot when he is being lazy. But most of the time he goes right from a walk to a normal trot when asked to speed up. My guy is pretty big.....about 16 hands, 1275 lbs. But that doesn't mean there aren't smaller versions as well.

    My Fox Trotter mare (the gelding's mother) does pace, so I could see a cross potentially picking up the pace from the Fox Trotter side of the family.

    So that wasn't much help, lol! But I have never met another QH/Fox Trotter cross, so I would be curious what your guy looks like standing still. This is mine:
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        07-05-2014, 03:04 AM
      #5
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
    Your guy does have a passing resemblance to a Quarter Horse just based on that photo. The head shape, rump shape and body carriage look about right. It would be cool to see a conformation photo of him and know his height (most Pasos I have seen are not super tall). Most pasos I have seen are more spanish looking too, as far as the sloping rump and arched neck. Then again, that is hard to evaluate in that particular photo.

    I have a QH/Fox Trotter cross and he's diagonally gaited, not lateral. I'm kind of on the fence on whether he is actually gaited or not. He has a flat walk and a "kinda" fox trot when he is being lazy. But most of the time he goes right from a walk to a normal trot when asked to speed up. My guy is pretty big.....about 16 hands, 1275 lbs. But that doesn't mean there aren't smaller versions as well.

    My Fox Trotter mare (the gelding's mother) does pace, so I could see a cross potentially picking up the pace from the Fox Trotter side of the family.

    So that wasn't much help, lol! But I have never met another QH/Fox Trotter cross, so I would be curious what your guy looks like standing still. This is mine:
    Cool, it is an uncommon mix lol. I will try to get a good conformation pic for you but basically he is small and round. I'd guess 14.1 to 14.2
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        07-05-2014, 03:05 AM
      #6
    Foal
    BTW your boy is super cute!
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        07-05-2014, 03:06 AM
      #7
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZaneyZanne123    
    You may want to contact the Florida Cracker Horse Registry. Here is the web site: Florida Cracker Horse Association

    The brand could be nearly anything esp if its private and not registered. However it looks to me to be a fancy F with some sort of filigree under it. (No I don't think this has anything to do with the Florida Cracker Horse breed but it might be a start).

    The Florida Cracker Horse has been around for a very long time but was almost lost during the Depression and they have Spanish background and often do carry various gaits. Ambling is one of the more common gait of the FCH.

    Good Luck.
    I never even considered that breed, I'll look into it. I had kinda forgotten about them oops
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        07-06-2014, 01:49 AM
      #8
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
    Your guy does have a passing resemblance to a Quarter Horse just based on that photo. The head shape, rump shape and body carriage look about right. It would be cool to see a conformation photo of him and know his height (most Pasos I have seen are not super tall). Most pasos I have seen are more spanish looking too, as far as the sloping rump and arched neck. Then again, that is hard to evaluate in that particular photo.

    I have a QH/Fox Trotter cross and he's diagonally gaited, not lateral. I'm kind of on the fence on whether he is actually gaited or not. He has a flat walk and a "kinda" fox trot when he is being lazy. But most of the time he goes right from a walk to a normal trot when asked to speed up. My guy is pretty big.....about 16 hands, 1275 lbs. But that doesn't mean there aren't smaller versions as well.

    My Fox Trotter mare (the gelding's mother) does pace, so I could see a cross potentially picking up the pace from the Fox Trotter side of the family.

    So that wasn't much help, lol! But I have never met another QH/Fox Trotter cross, so I would be curious what your guy looks like standing still. This is mine:
    I like him, he seems to be built well from What I can tell. Nice straight front leg and well set. Good bone and seems to be well balanced. I would love to see a nice conformation picture of him with out the tack. I could put him on my grid for you.
         

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