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  • Why do riders of racking horses stick their feet forward?

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    11-27-2010, 12:16 PM
  #31
Foal
I just have to say, that TWH DO indeed trot. I have owned several that will both gait and trot in pasture, but, never trot under saddle. As a matter of fact, my TWH does a FABULOUS trot!! Beautiful to watch! I'm just glad I don't have to ride it! LOL!
     
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    11-27-2010, 12:23 PM
  #32
Yearling
My TWH does a fabulous trot, smooth as glass to ride, even smoother than most of my quarterhorses' trots. It's so smooth that I'm tempted to figure out how to cue her for it 'on purpose'!
     
    11-28-2010, 12:02 PM
  #33
Weanling
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Originally Posted by AnitaAnne    
One more thing, the rider! You will notice that the saddle is set back farther than in English or western. Also the rider sits back in a chair seat, the correct position. Some you will see really thrusting their feet forward, which helps the rider to sit back & help the horse work off his hind end. The hands are held higher than most other styles, except maybe some upper level eventers trying to slow their horses...
Yes! I was wondering about that too! So it is actually a fault to sit in the accepted dressage position, with your legs well underneath you? Sitting in a chair seat drops your horse's back, I know that...but that's what you want on a gaited horse, right?

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Originally Posted by AnitaAnne    
You will also notice that the riders are not using any leg at all & the hands are generally very quiet. To ride, you sit back then pick up on the reins to lift the head & shoulders & go! Often the horse will sart going as soon as you pick up on the reins. Generally you think of this as "setting the horses head" or "putting them in a headset".
So how do you get them to stop? Drop the reins? How do you ask for different gaits?

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Originally Posted by AnitaAnne    
One more thing, the horses are usually trained to "park out" for the rider to mount. This means that the horse's back legs are stretched out way behind them with lowers the horses back & makes it easier to mount. I have found that a 15 hand racking horse feels much smaller than a 15 hand QH, so a tall rider would want one about 16 hands or so.
I've often wondered about that too...I thought it was just a pose for looks in the show ring (I've also heard it helps hide conformation faults). Isn't that kind of hard on the horse's back? He doesn't have his legs underneath him to balance himself when the rider's weight is all on the left side for mounting.
     
    11-28-2010, 01:13 PM
  #34
Weanling
AnitaAnne has given you the "show horse" method. That's one way, but not the only way.

If you are going to try for blue ribbons then you want to follow the "show way." If you don't you are wasting your time.

Outside the show ring the better way is the more classical approach. You put your saddle in the "saddle pocket" where it belongs. You sit squarely in the saddle and use your legs as you would with any classically trained horse. Ditto for using the seat and hands. You will look no different that any person riding a classically trained horse.

G.
     
    11-28-2010, 03:35 PM
  #35
Foal
I totally agree with the above post. I personally think the show ring way of riding the gaited horses looks stupid and in NO WAY practical for the trail! Half of those people look like turtles. Its awful. I cannot believe that way of riding would be comfortable for any length of time for the rider or the horse. Ya get on, sit the horse the normal way, and ride. When you do ask for the gait, some horses can do it on a loose rein, some need that extra pressure on they're mouth to be a little more collected(amongst other cues) I do sit back a TINY bit at the gait, but not to the ridiculous state that I have seen some gaited riders do. Some seem like they are laying on the back of the horse. Geesh!
     
    11-28-2010, 05:43 PM
  #36
Yearling
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Originally Posted by hrsrdr    
Yes! I was wondering about that too! So it is actually a fault to sit in the accepted dressage position, with your legs well underneath you? Sitting in a chair seat drops your horse's back, I know that...but that's what you want on a gaited horse, right?



So how do you get them to stop? Drop the reins? How do you ask for different gaits?



I've often wondered about that too...I thought it was just a pose for looks in the show ring (I've also heard it helps hide conformation faults). Isn't that kind of hard on the horse's back? He doesn't have his legs underneath him to balance himself when the rider's weight is all on the left side for mounting.
They are not Dressage horses so, no, you do not sit in that position. I am first & formost a Dressage rider, and understand the difference!

When they are going really fast it is much easier to sit back! It you use your leg, they will really go!! Can be a little explosive at times, because they are just so willing & have a lot of endurance. I had one that was 22 years old & we still usually led everyone on trail rides. It was only after about 5 hours that he would start to fall back...

Amazingly, yes, to stop the reins are dropped & the rider can sit up straight or even forward a bit. You just stop allowing the motion in your seat. Most of the horses I know around here have very sensitive mouths & work off of extremely light pressure. It is a case of just closing your fist or opening your hand to slow or speed. Very similar to driving if you have ever done that.

As far as the parking out, I really don't like to do that, but some horses will do it on their own, just because they are trained that way. In a show, yes, you must park out the horse, it is required.

Now to the biggie, the padded shoes...I personally do not pad any of my horses, but I have ridden some padded up horses & I have some friends that have padded & flat-shod horses. I choose to not debate that issue, so please do not ask me about it, ok?
     
    11-28-2010, 05:49 PM
  #37
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Guilherme    
AnitaAnne has given you the "show horse" method. That's one way, but not the only way.

If you are going to try for blue ribbons then you want to follow the "show way." If you don't you are wasting your time.

Outside the show ring the better way is the more classical approach. You put your saddle in the "saddle pocket" where it belongs. You sit squarely in the saddle and use your legs as you would with any classically trained horse. Ditto for using the seat and hands. You will look no different that any person riding a classically trained horse.

G.
In the south, the way I described is the way to ride them. There is not difference between a show horse or a trail horse here, unless it is not good enough to show. The horses are ridden on the road, up hills, thru the woods, in parades & into the show ring. The only exception would be padded-up horses, they must be a little more careful where they ride, so mostly down the roads. Didn't you notice where these horses were being riden? Down the road racing a truck?? That was not just for the film, that is normal here!
     
    11-28-2010, 06:00 PM
  #38
Yearling
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Originally Posted by IA Pony    
I totally agree with the above post. I personally think the show ring way of riding the gaited horses looks stupid and in NO WAY practical for the trail! Half of those people look like turtles. Its awful. I cannot believe that way of riding would be comfortable for any length of time for the rider or the horse. Ya get on, sit the horse the normal way, and ride. When you do ask for the gait, some horses can do it on a loose rein, some need that extra pressure on they're mouth to be a little more collected(amongst other cues) I do sit back a TINY bit at the gait, but not to the ridiculous state that I have seen some gaited riders do. Some seem like they are laying on the back of the horse. Geesh!
As I said, it is the way everyone rides! I wouldn't suggest you tell some of these men that they look stupid either!! Really, not smart to call people names!!

A chair seat is very comfortable! Why do you think people that don't take lessons naturally sit that way?

If you don't pick up on the reins, some of the horses will pace instead of gait. Notice, I said SOME not all...I rode a mare at a sale barn a few weeks ago & it took everything I had to get her to gait. I could see immediately why she was sent to be sold cheap. The horse traders didn't like gaited horses and were trying to ride them like you do a QH, low hands, sitting up straighter, etc. I showed them how to ride properly & the rider did MUCH better, but still said she didn't like to ride them. I didn't buy the mare but did put my daughter on once I rode to see if she could get her to gait. She was able, but took a lot of work!

I have checked back with the horse dealers, and they have taken my advice & are now riding proper gaited style. So they are now bringing in more gaited horses, which means less horses going to the slaughterhouse!
     
    11-28-2010, 06:26 PM
  #39
Yearling
I agree... If you always sit in a chair seat, you've got nowhere else to go when you actually need to use your seat as an aid.

Here's a video of a horse racking with the rider in a relatively straight seat:
     
    11-28-2010, 06:43 PM
  #40
Foal
Like I said, THE WAY THEY RIDE LOOKS STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT the PEOPLE are stupid. I don't call people names. You can say all you want about that and I will always disagree. I said I lean back when they gait, NOT the way they do, but some. It gives me a slight chair seat, but I am not looking hunched over, legs clear ahead of them in a VERY IMPRACTICAL way of going down the trail. Just look at people riding gaited horses on trails, then look at the show way MOST show people ride. You really need to READ THE POSTS before you tell me I am calling people names. And, I have voiced several times OUT LOUD that that way of riding looks stupid! I have said it to breeders and show people alike. It doesnt look natural or in any way practical/comfortable at all. We will just disagree on how to ride our horses and that's that. No biggie. But, don't come back on me with false claims.
     

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