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post #21 of 78 Old 08-16-2011, 05:11 PM
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As yet another TWH owner I have to ask, WHY??

Yes you can do it but they'll never be good at it as a QH. You wont ever be able to beat a breed that is specifically bred for a job with one that wasn't. One caveat, yes it can happen but that's more a fluke then something you can depend on.
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post #22 of 78 Old 08-16-2011, 06:05 PM
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Before anyone says "he couldn't barrel race, he's not built for it etc. etc, could we maybe see a conformation picture of him?? Not all gaited horses have the typical gaited horse conformation, some are less precisely bred, so less refined. For all we know, this horse could even be quarter-horsey in build. Also, the OP asked if she COULD un-gait her horse, not if she SHOULD. So, yes, you CAN un-gait a gaited horse, but it probably isn't easy. Personally, I don't know how you would go about doing it.
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post #23 of 78 Old 08-16-2011, 06:09 PM
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Since you already have QH's that are bred for these type events, did you ask that foolish question just to raise the hackles on all the TWH owners???

Ditto, ditto, and ditto what everyone else has said and I'll stop right there---------
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I’m also a barrel racer, but I have paints and mustangs for that. I have been raised and bred Walkers for years with my family. A walker is not meant to not gait. Just a example of what could happen. I was at a fair and someone was barrel racing an walker. No big deal other than when she pushed him past his gait, he got confused in his feet movement and kept bucking. Lucky, as stayed on. Walkers are more of a pleasure horse and not a speed event horse.

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post #25 of 78 Old 08-16-2011, 09:18 PM
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I agree with most of the above - there's no need to get rid of the gait, the horse is perfectly capable of going at speed while maintaining its gaits.

Here's my beef:

OP has a horse she loves, and does not want to sell, and is trying to figure out new things to do with said horse. At what point did she say she's planning on trying to make it to an NBHA Mega Show? I didn't read that part, so I'm not sure where you all did. There is not one thing wrong with trying out new things with a horse you love and enjoy very much.

Add to that, read this here: Tennessee Walking Horse From Florida Wins Non-Pro Division at the Extreme Cowboy Race World Finals - Mounted Shooting Horse Network

You TWH people are going to have to decide what your line is: is your breed versatile or is it not? I'm not trying to pick a fight or start any huge arguments, but it's something for many of you to think about. Quite a few are jumping all over someone for daring to consider trying something new with her horse, while many others go on and on about how they love the breed for its versatility.

I just don't see what the problem is with the OP wanting to run her walker on barrels, for fun. That is what's it's all about, right? Sure, if she wants to start doing bigger shows, then she should probably get a more suitable horse. But I'm not sure when riding the right breed became more important than enjoying the horse you already own.
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post #26 of 78 Old 08-16-2011, 09:45 PM
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I agree with most of the above - there's no need to get rid of the gait, the horse is perfectly capable of going at speed while maintaining its gaits.

Here's my beef:

OP has a horse she loves, and does not want to sell, and is trying to figure out new things to do with said horse. At what point did she say she's planning on trying to make it to an NBHA Mega Show? I didn't read that part, so I'm not sure where you all did. There is not one thing wrong with trying out new things with a horse you love and enjoy very much.

Add to that, read this here: Tennessee Walking Horse From Florida Wins Non-Pro Division at the Extreme Cowboy Race World Finals - Mounted Shooting Horse Network

You TWH people are going to have to decide what your line is: is your breed versatile or is it not? I'm not trying to pick a fight or start any huge arguments, but it's something for many of you to think about. Quite a few are jumping all over someone for daring to consider trying something new with her horse, while many others go on and on about how they love the breed for its versatility.

I just don't see what the problem is with the OP wanting to run her walker on barrels, for fun. That is what's it's all about, right? Sure, if she wants to start doing bigger shows, then she should probably get a more suitable horse. But I'm not sure when riding the right breed became more important than enjoying the horse you already own.
That is not the crux of the issue. The OP wanted to know if the TWH could be taught NOT to gait and perform the trot because she/he wants to run barrels.

I never said a TWH isn't versatile - they are and I know quite few that are successful team penning horses.

The firestorm is over the fact that the OP wants to interfere with the gaiting gene pool that folks have been developing for years upon years and try to make the horse trot.
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GOOD POINT, bubbleslove! I'm all for versitility within a breed. I don't think that mounted shooting, which I've done, having ridden CW Cavalry since 1986, is the same as barrel racing with it's tight turns. Even Clinton Anderson has referenced how gaited horses make their turns a little bit slower than a QH! Lol
I'm a pianist and we musicians constantly come across other musicians who have changed from their original instrument because they've found their love in another instrument. I think everybody who replied is wondering why the OP would:
1) need permission from a forum to ride what you want;
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2) why you would want to frustrate a specialized breed of horse by asking him to perform against others with a better build for it. (The OP didn't say that the TWH would be barrel racing against other TWH's, which WOULD be to show versitility within a breed.)
Another thought--right now I have poles on the ground in my small, training arena to get MY 5 yo KMH to pick up his feet!! You KNOW, some gaited horses like to drag their feet and they WILL trip if you let them be lazy.
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GOOD POINT, bubbleslove! I'm all for versitility within a breed. I don't think that mounted shooting, which I've done, having ridden CW Cavalry since 1986, is the same as barrel racing with it's tight turns. Even Clinton Anderson has referenced how gaited horses make their turns a little bit slower than a QH! Lol
I'm a pianist and we musicians constantly come across other musicians who have changed from their original instrument because they've found their love in another instrument. I think everybody who replied is wondering why the OP would:
1) need permission from a forum to ride what you want;
And
2) why you would want to frustrate a specialized breed of horse by asking him to perform against others with a better build for it. (The OP didn't say that the TWH would be barrel racing against other TWH's, which WOULD be to show versitility within a breed.)
Another thought--right now I have poles on the ground in my small, training arena to get MY 5 yo KMH to pick up his feet!! You KNOW, some gaited horses like to drag their feet and they WILL trip if you let them be lazy.
Lol - many could be asked why they're referring to the Internet for anything related to their horse, but that's a whole 'nother thread.

Gaited horses do turn differently than a quarter horse, and in general their canter or gallop is slower because they aren't able to extend to the same degree.

I don't, however, think it frustrates the horse to compete with horses better suited to the discipline. I really have a hard time imagining that old Dobbin the TWH sits by the trailer feeling sorry for himself because all the other horses beat him at the jackpot. I think what he might instead feel is a sense of accomplishment that he did what his rider asked of him, and was rewarded both through praise and through the experience of getting out and doing something different - he's not been limited simply because of his breed. Horses don't compare themselves to other horses.

As to what the OP asked - yes, it was a silly question, but I think it's been made pretty clear that training the gait out of a gaited horse isn't something she should pursue. It's good to let her know that it's unrealistic to expect to be super successful in barrels on a walker, but there's no reason to tell her she needs to sell her horse etc.
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post #29 of 78 Old 08-17-2011, 02:48 PM
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if you tried to un gait a horse... wouldnt the breed that is bred to have a gait get all confused and not know where to put its legs... i've seen it happen you can't undo something that was bred into the horse, that's been implanted into its brain it just doesnt work that way!

the hardest part of riding is the ground... yup sounds about right
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post #30 of 78 Old 08-17-2011, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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not being rude. FORGET WHY. I just wanna know if its possible or not.
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