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post #51 of 78 Old 08-22-2011, 07:59 AM
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I appreciate the responses to my question but nobody has yet told me how it will "ruin" a TWH to teach them to trot.
Gee, I thought I had.....
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Gee, I thought I had.....
No, you cited an example of poor training.

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No, you cited an example of poor training.

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From what I understand that is a more common outcome of trying to un-gait a horse than it working out well for all involved.
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From what I understand that is a more common outcome of trying to un-gait a horse than it working out well for all involved.
Your belief is widely held. I'm not sure is widely valid.

I'm not looking for "understanding" or "common belief" I'm looking for the mechanism involved in the "trot" that will "ruin" a gaited horse. So far it's not been presented.

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In my experience, a naturally gaited horse will gait well if collected. If allowed to work on a loose rein, many of them will revert to a trot. Re-collect them, and they gait again. You are not teaching anything new. They already know how to trot.

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I should have the disclaimer in most posts: I'm not a trainer!!

That said, I don't believe letting a twh trot will "ruin" them. They'll not keel over and die, suffer from mental disorders or need "therapy" .

I do believe in "form to function". If the op is looking for a barrel horse, then I'd agree it's best left for a horse that's most suited for the job. Have people barrel raced their tw's? Sure. Pole bending?? Sure. Is it the best horse for the job and good mechanically for the horse, well, not in my opinion. For those of you with more experience than I, please chime in.

When running barrels I think you want the fastest score and cleanest run. Most tw's cross fire in the canter, at least the ones that I've seen. I think it's due to them being so open in the stifle. That said, it's a bumpy uncomfortable ride and forget about being a smooth tight run around the barrel. I'd think it would put too much torque on the hocks and stifle and could cause more problems than it's worth down the road. This doesn't mean that a tw "can't" canter or will always cross fire and never have a clean canter.

I'm still learning so if I'm really off base, let me know.
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I think that you are right that a TWH will most likely not be a great barrel horse. It is possible that he is fast, who knows?

I have a 24 year old TWH that my husband now rides. His canter is awesome, and he did perfect flying lead changes the first time he was asked. Never a cross fire, never a missed lead. However, he has a nice, slow, rocking horse canter. He only gets in a hurry if chased by an evil poodle or if someone's hat falls off. B.B. King once sang, "I am built for comfort, not for speed." Well that is my horse. Slow, comfortable ride. On that thought, maybe I should take him back from my husband........

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Celeste, sounds like a plan!!

I've seen some, not many, that have awesome canters...it just took some time to get there. Sounds like your horse is incredibly athletic.
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Well he still has great gaits, but he is pretty fat. Lol. I've gotten fatter over the years as well.

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I feel disappointed to hear that my TWH's canter is not typical. I was thinking about buying another one some day.

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