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post #61 of 78 Old 08-26-2011, 07:47 AM
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The canter is a three beat gait. Many, many Walkers are bred to pace which is a two beat gait (because the pace is easy to "square up" with devices). So what you're got is a breed with lots and lots of "two beating" horses that often have trouble learning to three beat. There are many ways to deal with this, but it takes knowledge and skill to do it effectively.

If the horse has this issue it's the people who bred these horses that bear the responsibility. Breeders who concentrate on a true running walk (a four beat gait; there are a few breeders who do this) have versitile horses. The transition to the canter for these horses is a non-issue.

So if you want a Walker that does more than gait (badly) then you'll have to look long and hard.

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I have only owned two in my life. I have ridden a few others (maybe 4). They all had nice lateral gaits (running walks or racks) and nice canters. Most were related to each other. I assumed it was the norm. Anybody else have similar experience? Or bad gaits? Just wondering.

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post #63 of 78 Old 08-26-2011, 03:24 PM
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The running walk is not a lateral gait. It's four beat, isochronal gait (meaning that foot pickup and foot fall are symetrical). In reality, the gait can tend very slightly to the lateral or diagonal and be correct and comfortable. If a bit diagonal then the canter will be easier.

The stepping pace is a lateral gait but as long as it's not too lateral the canter will not be a major effort for the horse.

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The running walk is not a lateral gait. It's four beat, isochronal gait (meaning that foot pickup and foot fall are symetrical). In reality, the gait can tend very slightly to the lateral or diagonal and be correct and comfortable. If a bit diagonal then the canter will be easier.

The stepping pace is a lateral gait but as long as it's not too lateral the canter will not be a major effort for the horse.

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Technically correct, but I have always heard an isochronal gait referred to as "lateral" because it is not the diagonal trot. Never really thought about it that way. Thanks for the terminology correction.

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I didnt read all 7 pages of comments so excuse me if I say something that has already been said.(i hate that my self) but IMO you should not mess with any naturally gaited horses natural gait the same way you should not mess with horses gait to make him gait better(pads,chains,whatev) These horses are bred to do this this is who they are.To me its like saying "Hey you clydsdale.Cant you be smaller like a regular horse".
Now on another note my mother used to do playday rodeos with her walkers and did very well.she had a few walkers that were very fast once you get them into a gallop.Work on his speed.Dont mess with the gait.

But its your horse and you will do what you want to do anyway and I wish you luck on achiving what it is you want with him.I know what you mean about not being able to let go.Im having a hard time with a crazy yard ornament of a paint that I have as well.I am an all gaited girl but this paint has my heart as well as the walker.There are so many that can do more with him then I can.I am just not a cow horse person
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"this this is who they are....."

This is logical.

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"this this is who they are....."

This is logical.
always forget my commas ,hope it wasn't too annoying
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Didn't annoy me. I never understood commas all that well anyway. I was basically agreeing with you. Let them be themselves.

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Ohhhhh!!! My bad. I'm always trying to read into things that dosnt need to be red into.
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one who see's tw's that have a hard time with a clean canter. I, too, think it's in the breeding and training. It took a lot of time to get my mare to canter, a good many are totally discouraged from it.

Don't give up hope you'll find another that has your horses rocking chair canter. They are there!! Could just be the breeding in my part of the country. LOT'S of pacey horses, long backed and sold off after they didn't make it in the show ring.
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