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post #1 of 25 Old 10-04-2010, 10:00 PM Thread Starter
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Does your TWH trot??

Hey all!!

I recently got a TWH mare (she is registered, so purebred) and she trots! She trots in the pasture and she trots under saddle too.

Does your gaited TWH trot around in the pasture? What about under saddle?

She does gait too... However she'll trot sometimes and gait others.

I picked her up - she was headed for auction and I wanted to get her and work with her some, but I need tips on how to work on this trotting issue. I am kind of new to the gaited breed. She is as gentle as a lamb, and a real confidence builder -broke as broke can be. She just does that, it is my understanding that his kids rode her all over the place and they are probably what confused the gait, maybe?

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None of the gaited horses I ride usually trot. One, an eight-year-old TWH mare, will trot when she gets tired or lazy, but can be snapped back into a running walk easily.

Some Walkers always trot at liberty; this is okay, as long as it isn't carried over into in-saddle work. One of my favorite Walkers, who never trots under saddle, always trots at liberty. It doesn't seem to affect their saddle gaits.

The best way to get her from trotting would to have an experienced gaited horseman take her for a few rides. But, if you want to do it yourself (most people do), the easiest way is to get her at a good flat walk and up the speed until she's gaiting. The second you feel her start to trot, check back and start over. Don't let her walk/relax much during these check backs. Walking is the reward, and you don't want to reward her for trotting! Once you get a few good strides of gait, stop for a while. Build on this. How old is she? You say she's well broke, so I'll assume older then eight. She may have either never been taught to gait under saddle (this is a bit of a problem and certainly requires pro help), or she's forgotten/gotten lazy. I highly doubt she doesn't know what she's doing, so I will go with lazy... Or, even more likely, taught to trot by accident by the non-gait-savvy people. (I favor my last answer.)

Good luck! There are a lot of people on this forum smarter then me who can offer you more help. Ask around.

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Hi Brighteyes,
Thanks a lot! Very helpful, I have heard about the do a lot of walking, and up the speed until in a running walk. She kind of rides around all strung out too - very uncollected, head up, etc. I used to ride Arabians though, and they are totally a different look. So maybe Walkers don't collect up like some of the other breeds?

You gave me some relief that we may be able to get this back under control, even if we need a trainer! I'm willing to try that, if we need to! Her trot isn't all that comfortable a little bouncy - not terrible though, just compared to her gait :)

My gelding, who is 3. Has an awesome gait, never trots or paces under saddle, but he trots at liberty too, just not often... if he's going in the pasture, he typically is gaiting. This mare seems to trot in pasture more than gait.



She is 10. She has great breeding/bloodlines. Lots of big names. So she is obviously bred to do this, and do it well.
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Glad to help!

It would probably help if you could go into a round pen or paddock and work on getting her collected. It's easy to running-walk collected then strung out. If she's too hallow, she'll just pace. She would carry herself just like any other horse: head down, stepping under herself, weight on the haunches, etc. The only difference in training and riding a gaited horse versus a normal horse would be an easy gait instead of a trot. Forget she's a Walker and train her like an Arab.


What's her breeding exactly? Just a curiosity question. I've been researching Walker bloodlines recently, because I've been looking at a lot of different horses for sale.
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Midnight, my coach's reserve champion TWH racking horse, is more on the trotty side than the pacey. He is OUT OF SHAPE. Dear lord that horse can't go 2 laps without sweating. He's also a hotter gelding and likes to move out. He also will try to canter-rack up hills, etc.

His full sister is on the PACEY side. She doesn't understand that more =/= faster and will pace when she's tired. She has a nice running walk, though. When she was being exercised 3x a week, she did VERY well and we went to some shows.
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i have sort of the same problem, except i dont have a walker i have a paso fino. do u kno if its normal for pasos to have a trot and a canter? my cousin has a paso as well, and he trots/canters also. but my paso will do a pace, rack, and something else. (im not very educated on the specific gaits of gaited horses other than those 2) what he does is normally pretty random. sometimes if im in showmanship he will pace or do a running walk (or something like it i think...??) but sometimes he'll trot. and when im riding, sometimes he'll pace but sometimes he'll trot, and sometimes he does something else that feels like a cross between the 2. but when im riding i think he trots more often than he paces unless i keep his head really collected. any ideas what thats about??
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^^

He's lost his gait training or he's never been taught properly, just like Riverwalk's horse. If you let his get away with trotting and pacing, he'll take advange of you and do it, because he doesn't know he's only suppose to gait.
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What's her breeding exactly? Just a curiosity question. I've been researching Walker bloodlines recently, because I've been looking at a lot of different horses for sale.
Thanks again Bright! I am so out of practice, husband and I both ride very quiet with our seat and hands, but as far as getting her rounded up, and head down - I am drawing a blank at what to do. Would you put a martingale on her, or more like draw reins? I know it's more than just using these training devices, I just am doing this on what to do. Crappy feeling. Thankfully when I bought my gelding, he was perfection (at least to me! lol) no but seriously, he was prof. trained and is great to ride, real light in the mouth, always squared up and cadenced. So I can maintain that - but this mare, I'm struggling with and she is a DOLL! So easy to work around. If nothing else, she is great with my husband who is more of a beginner, she is VERY quiet.

Her breeding is this... Her grandsire is The Touch (WGC) on top and on the bottom it is The Pusher C.G. (WGC). Her Great get is Delight of Pride and Prides Gold Coin. I'm just naming off the bigger names on the top and bottom of course :) And, great great...... would be Pride of Midnight. My gelding's grandfather is Pride of Midnight.

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As far as rounding her up and getting her into a good frame, I would talk to a dressage queen. They lurk the forums and are very good at that kind of stuff and explain things much better than I can even try to. Anabel, Kayty, and other knowledgeable HF-er have helped me before, and will probably be happy to do the same for you.


And she has a nice pedigree; Midnight Sun bred horses are my favorites. My best little mare is heavy on the Midnight Sun, and she's as tough as they come. Great builds and very hardy horses! And yes. I DO like their heads.
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lol talk about a head on this new mare.. good lord, its on the verge of an outward curve/bulge. LOL But it's cute, it fits her and she is pretty to me :)
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