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    06-28-2014, 05:43 PM
Yes she has. The chiro was out this morning. Turns out she was really out in the neck and even down in to the withers. Her shoulder was a bit out of place, but not much. My MIL has laid the law down and said nothing but exercise for the horse for the next month. During that time, no riding. She really does need to lose some weight... I get that, I just really get frustrated with the waiting game. Sigh. It would help (I think) if the MIL would quit giving out extra hay.. I did order a measure tape though and plan to exercise her 2-3 x/day. Wish me luck!
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    06-29-2014, 11:34 AM
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I am so glad the chiro worked on her already as she is very lame and sore on the right in the video

Your MIL is right - no riding until the mare walks sound at liberty. As sore as she looks to be, she may even need another chiro treatment in 4 weeks since the Atlas bone and/or Poll were involved along with the shoulder.

Regarding hay. It is an established fact that a horse should eat 1.5% - 2% of their DESIRED body weight in forage daily. I feed 2% of the desired weight and there is always hay left in the bag the next morning

I have two metabolic TWH's. I also have a scale in the barn, weigh their hay, and give it to them in a slow feed hay net.

They are on pasture during the day, in at night; one wears a grazing muzzle, the other doesn't need one because his issues are more endocrine related than insulin.

Meaning, buy her a Tough-1 grazing muzzle from Chicks. They have huge nostril holes for these big-headed horses. Cursor below the muzzle and there sits the slow feed hay net for $8

Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - Tough-1 Easy Breathe Grazing Muzzle

I apologize, I didn't even bother to look at how you ride - lol lol All I saw was a very sore horse.

Please listen to your MIL and stay off her until she is sound. The best exercise the horse can get is self-exercise until she stops favoring that shoulder. She will move herself in a way that is comfortable to her. If she is by herself and refuses to move, then scatter some hay piles around a paddock and force her to walk that way

She is a very pretty gal, good luck with her
    06-29-2014, 10:38 PM
Thank you. I ordered a measure tape so I can get a general idea of whether or not she's losing weight. I will definitely get a slow feed net. Our vet has told us to feed 20% of body weight (!?) he did tell me to cut it down to 10% for her though. She weighs 999 and should weigh 850. I do absolutely love her. We've come a long way :) I'm hoping once the weight is off, that she'll gain muscle in all the right places and we'll have smooth sailing from then on out. In the meantime, I'll continue to ride the old gentleman who is not exactly a quiet horse himself. Lol
I've been riding him bareback on occasion.
    06-29-2014, 11:44 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by AmateurOwner    
Thank you. I ordered a measure tape so I can get a general idea of whether or not she's losing weight. I will definitely get a slow feed net. Our vet has told us to feed 20% of body weight (!?) he did tell me to cut it down to 10% for her though. She weighs 999 and should weigh 850. Julio - YouTube
I hope your vet meant to say 2%.

20% of her desired weight of 850 pounds is 170 pounds

She could never eat that much in 24 hours of continuous pasture eating

This link is from North Dakota State University's Ag dept. While a lot of the article relates to feeding a horse in their winter months, I have copy/pasted the paragraph that talks about how much hay per pound a horse should have and it is not 20%.

I am pretty sure your vet meant to say 20 POUNDS

Feed Horses Properly in Winter — Ag News from NDSU

“Owners should plan on feeding 2 pounds of good-quality grass hay per 100 pounds of body weight for the average horse,” Hammer says.

However, the general recommendations of feeding 2 percent of body weight do not account for hay waste or extremely cold weather conditions. Feeding hay in a feeder will result in less waste than not using a feeder. Although many different types of bale feeders are available, using a feeder can reduce waste to less than 20 percent."

The article also gives due credit to feeders helping lower hay waste. I put my IR horse's slow feed hay net over his hay tub.

That not only allows the hay to fall into his tub, it also helps keep the hay net away from his feet. Even though I tie the net high and he is barefoot, I still worry he might find a way to get his hooves in it.

Hope this helps
    06-30-2014, 08:58 AM
Yes, I bet he did mean pounds. Sorry.. I'm a little horse terms dumb, Lol. It's funny you note she looks really lame in the video. No one else mentioned that. I even sent it to her breeder... She didn't exhibit any pain or being off until the next day. Is it possible it's her gait that makes you think that? Are you familiar with the Pasos? I really hope the exercise helps. It's a shame that she continues to have problems. Before we know it, summer will be over. Sigh. My MIL doesn't believe the net will help. She says it only extends feed time by a half hour. But I'll try it anyways. Thank you for your help :)
    06-30-2014, 11:13 AM
Green Broke
I am not familiar with Pasos but, I stand by what I said:) She is at a dog walk and is favoring that shoulder:)

The video didn't have anything on it until around four minutes. I manually forwarded the video until I could see the horse.

I have to wonder if people honestly looked at the entire video because they had to wait 4 minutes to see the horse and it didn't occur to them to manually fast forward until they could see the horse.

That could be why nobody mentioned her being off but she is off enough that, if you study the video, enough time has passed that you should also be able to see it with an unbiased eye

Sometimes I have to go back and look at something to see what I didn't see the first time
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    06-30-2014, 12:12 PM
Good point. I went back and edited the video to cut out those useless minutes. I do not have a trained eye, and I don't know what to look for -- but I do see what you are talking about. That day, I was just impressed that she was walking. Here I thought it was due to her trust and like for me ... Lol I'll make a couple of my other videos public if you are interested in taking a look. My SIL had been riding her for me, allowing me time to gain some experience, so any video older than June 2014 is my SIL on her. There is one video with a real thin lady on her, that is our trainer.
It's been an uphill battle with lameness and other issues. She used to be severely head shy. There is a video of my SIL taking the bit and bridle off -- you will see what I mean.. but through time and diligence, she is much more comfortable in that respect now.
    07-01-2014, 02:08 AM
She definitely looks sore in that video, poor thing. I agree with what Walkinthepark has mentioned regarding no riding and weight control. Hopefully slimming down and chiropractor visits will sort her shoulder out and it is just due to her weight, misalignment, etc. Has she had issues with it before, or is the lameness new?
    07-01-2014, 09:03 AM
She's been our farm for three years. She was shipped from Kentucky. My MIL rode her there and she was perfectly sound. It took her some time to adjust to being here and she was pregnant when she got here. She didn't get ridden much because she was pregnant and with the poll issues, which we think must have happened in transit. Either she pulled back too hard in a tie or someone grabbed on to her. It took a very long time to even be able to halter and unhalter in the stall, then again when she was out in the paddock. After she foaled in March 2012, my SIL would ride her occasionally but she was always shy with her head and she wanted to go go go under saddle. I took ownership March 2013. Why? I'm not sure.. I was more scared of her than any horse in the barn. She was nervous in the cross ties and I never offered to groom her. But once she became mine, I made it a mission to desensitize her and we've come a very, very long way. I had no intention of riding her until I had enough confidence to do so. Last fall we took her to a spine specialist and she had injections in both hocks and stifles. He recommended chiro. I had the chiro out in October and she was a whole new horse after that. Finally walking with a lowered head and standing at ease in the cross ties. She's definitely a one person horse, she will settle only for my MIl if I am not available. I've spent countless hours just walking, lunging, saddling and bridling her. Chiro was out again mid May for adjustments and I worked up to riding her a few weeks ago. She has not been injured since I've owned her. I can only hope that it's because she is overweight and out of shape. I am now exercising her lightly 3x/day and the chiro was just out again last weekend. The goal is for her to lose 100# before I ride her again. I'm not giving up on her yet :)
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    06-17-2015, 03:00 PM
Ahhh how things can change in a years time!
I am so happy to report that things have changed so, so much! First off, we are down 101# (mare) and 30# (me). With the beautiful spring/summer weather in Wisconsin we've been riding (independently - Yay) at least 1 x / week since March w/no signs of lameness. The vet was very pleased at her annual exam end of May and told my MIL firmly that I am in charge of feeding the horses... Lol

We've required no chiro care so far this year and she's had no problems after trims. My goal is to have her out on a trail ride off the farm this year. She's still a bit spooky, but NoTHing like she was. Since the bit used on her was a harsh one (in my opinion) and I am a new rider - I decided to take the bit out of the equation at least for now. I've been riding her in just a bosal. We are surprising everyone!

In this video we are working on stepping over the scary, scary poles - so, other than her scared face - anyone see any sign of soreness (remembering that she is a gaited horse)?

confidence, fino, first ride, gaited

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