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post #31 of 34 Old 04-23-2013, 03:04 PM
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If you wish to move a horse (any horse) from the lateral to the diagonal under saddle all you need to is collect them into an effective bascule. If you do this the horse will have no choice but to trot. Getting them into a bascule might be challenging (to the point of serious resistance by the horse). Again, a good rider should be able to accomplish this in a few training sessions. But before they do it they should have a plan and part of that plan is a good reason for the plan!!!

If you don't believe me talk with any dressage trainer. They know all about this (including going from classical collection all the way to rollkur).

I do NOT recommend this for routine work, but for corrective or specialized work it can be an effective tool for addressing some problems.

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post #32 of 34 Old 04-25-2013, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by demonwolfmoon View Post
Thank you, Silly and everyone else.

I guess with my husband, if I were to conjecture, his main issue is probably that he doesn't want a gaited horse, because he thinks it looks dumb. If I were to conjecture, that is. Now, part of that may be his perception that the gait is utilized for the comfort of the human, and not necessarily the wellbeing of the animal.

Now, in my reading (I'm not generally interested in Gaited horses btw, because I never truly considered buying a horse that gaits!), I seem to remember someone mentioning that gaited horses usually have to be trained to gait consistently under saddle. I read that to mean that the horse won't just gait gait gait all the time, they have to be trained to do so. So in that instance, even if the horse is naturally gaited, it takes training to sustain it. I guess that is what led me to wonder if it is detrimental to the horse's health...because if they were meant to do it all the time...wouldn't they naturally do it...all the time?

As Guilherme says though, I guess the key would be moderation (and a helping of common sense, I'd imagine).

That being said, someone was asking if she was gaited, I said I had no clue, and I sent a video. It was that individual's opinion that the horse is probably gaited, but allowed to trot instead of keeping up the gait. Specifics about her way of motion were mentioned. So at this rate, the horse is probably about 20 years old, and used to moving the way she is used to moving. If it would be "better" for her to (re) learn to use a gait under saddle, I'd need a trainer. If she's fine the way she is, she's fine the way she is. That's where the discussion with DH comes in....if it's not "better" for her to gait, for HER, then he doesn't want to do it. If it's not better for the animal, he sees it as selfish manipulation.

However, a lot of my question was general as well. I *am* a scientist!! My curiosity has been somewhat peaked!

Is that movement, sustained by the horse, with a weight on it's back healthy?
And the answer thus far appears to be moderation ;)...but again, as a scientist, I ask, where's the research? I guess I"ll have to dig a little...
i guess everyone is entitled to an opinion, but if your conjecture is correct, his reasoning is pretty frickin sad.

any old $2 plug can trot, but only the good ones can gait.
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Originally Posted by Dead Rabbit View Post
i guess everyone is entitled to an opinion, but if your conjecture is correct, his reasoning is pretty frickin sad.
LOL agreed. ;)
It's also why he didn't want to go back to the English barn for lessons xD

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post #34 of 34 Old 04-27-2013, 05:00 AM
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The walk is a lateral gait for all horses

Originally Posted by sillyhorses View Post
Non-gaited horses walk in diagonal pairs. Gaited horses have a unique lateral movement.
This is incorrect. All horses of every breed, gaited or non-gaited, walk the same way. There is not a certain kind of walk for trotting horses and a different walk for the gaiting breeds. The walk for every breed is a lateral gait. There are two diagonal phases within the walk which is where the confusion may lie.

By definition the walk is "a four-beat gait that averages about 4 miles per hour (6.4 km/h). When walking, a horse's legs follow this sequence: left hind leg, left front leg, right hind leg, right front leg, in a regular 1-2-3-4 beat."

Notice the footfall: left hind leg, left front leg, right hind leg, right front leg. This is a lateral movement.

Here is a great video that illustrates what happens during each gait. You'll have to go in to 2:50 in the video to see the walk. The lateral movement is clearly illustrated along with the diagonal support phase.

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