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    09-16-2010, 02:38 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by Guilherme    
As far as riding is concerned, even basic under saddle work does not vary much between a trotter and a gaited horse. There are more complexities with getting a specific gait than there are getting a generic trot, but when a horse first goes under saddle the wise trainer looks for a quiet, forward, horse yielding to the bit more than any sort of specific gait. If you get that gait, then God Bless You. If you don't, it's not a concern at that time.

I agree and disagree with this at the same time LOL

While I think any trainer should be able to start a horse...after 4 months you should be getting into gaiting.

I understand that *any* trainer should be trying to get basic skills down first before gaiting. My point is, if you send a gaited horse to a regular training to be broke and that horse starts off gaiting incorrectly that trainer may not know how to correct the problem. If a horse gets pacey, it needs to be corrected. The sooner the better.

If you didn't care about the correctness of gait or the smoothness of the gait...you could send your horse to whatever trainer fit your needs. But then again...if you didnt care...why buy a gaited horse at all?
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    09-19-2010, 04:00 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
I was wondering what others do for gaited trainers. There are not many in the Midwest and I took my horse to a well known trainer in Mn, Liz Graves and she had the horse for 4 months and when I went to pick it up she wouldn't ride it. I can't imagine that being normal but was wondering others experience? I just got back from another training stable and they would do ground work and get on the horse and ride in 1 day.
No, im a gaited horse trainer in Ludowici Ga, and its not normal for me to not ride any of my clients horses for them when its time for them to go home... Hope you didnt pay her!!!
     
    09-20-2010, 05:41 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by BriarwoodStables    
No, im a gaited horse trainer in Ludowici Ga, and its not normal for me to not ride any of my clients horses for them when its time for them to go home... Hope you didnt pay her!!!
I had to pay in advance and after talking with some people they said I should request a refund but she is not responding to my emails
     
    09-20-2010, 06:26 PM
  #24
Foal
Why not go there or call? Then she can not ignore the situation. I also have a gaited horse (Rocky Mountain) whom is my first gaited horse. I have a hard time getting him to gait correctly. I don't know if its me or him. I live in vermont and can't find any gaited horse trainers up here. I just trail ride, so I don't really care what he does for a gait, but sometimes I would be nice to have a smooth gait.
     
    09-20-2010, 06:40 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by mapleridgefarm    
why not go there or call? Then she can not ignore the situation. I also have a gaited horse (Rocky Mountain) whom is my first gaited horse. I have a hard time getting him to gait correctly. I don't know if its me or him. I live in vermont and can't find any gaited horse trainers up here. I just trail ride, so I don't really care what he does for a gait, but sometimes I would be nice to have a smooth gait.
She is 4 hours away. She is usually gone doing clinics but I might send her a registered letter next.
If she were in the same state I would take her to small claims court.
     
    09-20-2010, 07:33 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by mapleridgefarm    
why not go there or call? Then she can not ignore the situation. I also have a gaited horse (Rocky Mountain) whom is my first gaited horse. I have a hard time getting him to gait correctly. I don't know if its me or him. I live in vermont and can't find any gaited horse trainers up here. I just trail ride, so I don't really care what he does for a gait, but sometimes I would be nice to have a smooth gait.
send me a pm or give me a call and ill try to help you out best I can.

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    09-20-2010, 10:46 PM
  #27
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Originally Posted by corinowalk    
I agree and disagree with this at the same time LOL

While I think any trainer should be able to start a horse...after 4 months you should be getting into gaiting.

I understand that *any* trainer should be trying to get basic skills down first before gaiting. My point is, if you send a gaited horse to a regular training to be broke and that horse starts off gaiting incorrectly that trainer may not know how to correct the problem. If a horse gets pacey, it needs to be corrected. The sooner the better.

If you didn't care about the correctness of gait or the smoothness of the gait...you could send your horse to whatever trainer fit your needs. But then again...if you didnt care...why buy a gaited horse at all?
I am lucky for the fact we are good friends with someone who trains gaiteds. They actually own several and do breed demos. He trains both gaited and stock horses, and they both break out the same way in regard to ground manners, etc. The difference is when my guy was done with groundwork and went under saddle he wasn't allowed to trot or pace. A gaited trainer is so used to it they know how to sit and feel if things are right. And it also helped me to know when I am in 4 beat gait. The most important thing with any gaited horse is to allow him the time to gain his balance and surefootedness which keeps him in gait as he gets older and learns how to gait to increase his speed.

He is learning very fast and thanks to my trainer I now know how to deal with him if he tries to hurry and go too fast for his training. The speed will come, it just requires patience and time under saddle.

It just is unbelievable a trainer wouldn't even sit on the horse or help the rider learn how to get the best out of their horse. I don't care where I live and where the trainer lives I would still file a claim in the trainers state.
     
    09-21-2010, 09:06 AM
  #28
Green Broke
Wow so I finally got a responce.
This was the letter I sent her. I will post her response below.

Liz,

I brought my 5 yr old Tennuvian Michael to you the winter of 08 through Feb 09 for training. You had him for 4 months and when I came to pick him up in Feb you would not even get on him. You said there was too much commotion because some one was dropping off a horse. You sent him home and told me to ride him. I thought that was odd and headed home. If you were not capable of working with this horse you should have sent him home in the 1st 30 days. I don't think expecting you to be able to ride a horse after 4 months is an unrealistic expectation.

In the spring of 09 I did some ground work for a few weeks and then ventured to get on in the round pen. You could tell he had been backed but had no idea what go meant and would get scared and scoot off. I think you sending him home and expecting me to get on and go when you wouldn't was unrealistic, not safe and unprofessional. I wouldn't have expected him to be finished but much further along then just being backed and you having the confidence to ride him before I left your facility.

I ended up sending him elsewhere for more training and with a confident rider this horse is amazing.

When I speak to others about my experience after 4 months of training and that you wouldn't get on the horse for me they are shocked and when I think about it I feel taken advantage of.

I was just at a training facility in Southern Mo and watched them back a horse after an hour or so of round pen work.
The owner of this horse was from Texas and she has had you do some clinics and also was also puzzled by you not being able to ride the horse.
I also did an Actha ride this weekend and spoke to a very knowledgeable horse woman and she had a similar experience and the trainer gave her a refund on the training.

I do not want to discredit your reputation and I am hoping you will make this right with me so I can tell about a good experience instead of a bad one. I look forward to hearing back from you.
     
    09-21-2010, 09:07 AM
  #29
Green Broke
This was her response after a 2nd request

In evidence of your previous e-mail , evidence that has been submitted to me and collected.
It seems you now committed a possible criminal offence of extortion by means of black mail through the threat and enactment of slander to a business for money.
The MN District Attorney will be contacted to pursue this matter farther.
You have now receive a response.

Regards,
Elizabeth Graves
Shades of Oak/ Elizabeth Graves LLC
     
    09-21-2010, 10:18 AM
  #30
Weanling
One thing I'm confused about is whether she would not get on the horse at all, ever - or if she just didn't get on the horse on the day you picked up the horse, because there was "too much commotion."

If the former, that definitely seems unacceptable. If the latter, while I still don't think it's right, it's a bit more understandable. The better approach would have been to reschedule either you or the drop-off so that you could each get the time you deserved - but in that case it would mean she still did appropriately work with the horse over the months she had it.
     

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