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post #1 of 8 Old 12-08-2012, 11:21 PM Thread Starter
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gaited saddle video

an interesting video I found on youtube. Id like to get opinions on what this gentleman is saying. And thoughts on what his studies have shown about using ridgid trees, and esp. Thoughts on how some saddles push you back against the cantle. Which is not natural. Compared to how his saddles keep you closer to the pommel.

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post #2 of 8 Old 12-09-2012, 12:23 PM
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Good video and had some interesting things to say, wouldn't mind trying one of his saddles. My take:

-Like what he said about flex trees, I've had a sneaking suscipion they would deform and he just confirmed that. Heavier you are the worse it will get too.

-What he said about rider position being important is true with gaited horses, matter of fact you can move your center of gravity forward/back and feel the horses gait change. This is important when trail riding as you go over changing terrain. That saddle seat looks like it would allow a rider to more easily shift rather than be locked in place. I have to fight my saddle a bit so been thinking about changing it for that reason alone even though it has the most comfortable seat I've ever sat in.

Quick google to find his website: Freedom Saddle
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thanks for replying Darrin. Im curious, what is your current ride now? Brand name?

Sorry I forgot to add the link to his saddlery. I looked it up last night after seeing this on youtube.
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The most important thing said in the video is FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION!!!!!

Saddle and other tack should be selected to allow the rider to get the maximum performance from the horse in the chosen discipline or activity.

Riding style should be one which will maximize performance. Tack should facilitate effective riding, not hinder it.

He also correctly noted that pressure points on the back are a big no-no. This true regardless of whether they are induced by the saddle (ill fit, poor design, etc.) or poor rider position or intentional rider action.

This advice could have come from anybody from Xenophon through Podhajsky to Brannaman. These things, in and of themselves, make the video valuable.

The comments on tree design have the same flaw that I've seen in other discussions of this type: promiscuous use of universals.

I'm not a QH guy, but my tenant has about 20 of them. I've been to several QH shows as her guest. QHs are NOT all conformed the same. They are similar in many ways, but a Foundation horse and a 15/16ths Appendix are going to have some differences! Some of those differences are in back conformation.

Not all gaited horses are alike. Shoot, not all Walkers are conformed alike. A Dement horse and something heavy on WGC blood are going to vary, including in the back. Now throw in a Mountain Horse and a Saddlebred and how can you make any sort of universal statement?

Finally, just to totally confuse things, lets add a Paso Fino, a Peruvian Paso, and a Mangalarga Marchador (that are all conformed like the Iberian horses that they are). Now how does one make "universal" assertions on "gaited horse conformation"?

This is not to say he's totally wrong, only that he's "over driven his headlights" in some of his assertions. But, hey, he's there to sell saddles.

Overall, I like his saddles. They appear to be of quality design as well as quality construction. He will obtain a custom tree if required and that can be a Good Thing for the more difficult to fit horse. If I were looking for that kind of saddle I'd give his offerings a very serious look.

The video is good and worth viewing. But, like anything else, the presenter has a point of view and that should be considered when making decisions based upon the views presented.

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post #5 of 8 Old 12-09-2012, 03:38 PM
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thanks for replying Darrin. Im curious, what is your current ride now? Brand name?

Sorry I forgot to add the link to his saddlery. I looked it up last night after seeing this on youtube.
I've got a Circle Y that's worked well for all but my latest walker. Doesn't leave any dry spots on him but he just doesn't gait as well with it on than he has we a few others I've thrown on his back to try out.
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[QUOTE=Darrin;1791338]Good video and had some interesting things to say, wouldn't mind trying one of his saddles. My take:

-Like what he said about flex trees, I've had a sneaking suscipion they would deform and he just confirmed that. Heavier you are the worse it will get too.

The manufacturers keep the weight issue with flex trees in VERY fine print. Most will tell you 185lbs. Is the max weight limit for a flex tree. Many men I know and some women are at that weight nowadays.

A woman can NEVER have too many horses.....
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I started out riding my gaited horsed with a Tucker Saddle. I saved a long time to get that saddle and was so excited when I was able to get it. The problem was it hurt my horses back. I tried to use different blankets and tried everything to be able to fit the saddle to my horse. It didn't work, so I bought a CircleYFlexlite. Again, I like the saddle it was lite and it fit me great and it didn't hurt my horses back as bad as the Tucker Saddle did. I weight less than 185 pounds but I did notice the longer that I rode the horse in the saddle that he was sore. I would rub him down with ointment to keep him from getting to sore but decided that the CircleYFlexlite didn't fit him right because his gait was starting to get a little rougher and he was carrying himself differently. I had a saddle custom made for him a Jack Haggis field trial saddle. My horse has never ridden better. It took me a while to get use to it but my horse immediately liked it. I now use this on all my gaited horses and everyone of them does better. The saddle is light and I love it's looks but most of all it fits my horses and they can move more freely. This video pointed out what I found out from my mistakes. I seem to always learn things the hard way.......

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post #8 of 8 Old 12-31-2012, 08:25 PM
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Good video. I'm glad he talked about the different needs for women and men. I have all the problems talked about in the videos on following site. If I could pay $5000+ for a saddle I'd try one!

Saddles Made for Female Riders

This cheap, synthetic saddle is the most comfortable one for me so far, for long rides, because it has such a wide seat and narrow twist. My pelvic bones are finally not sitting on the hard edge.

Kimberley Synthetic Stock Saddle

Don't know if it fits my new horse yet. I'm half temped to get a McClellan syle saddle for the slot down the middle. My mother was a farm girl who found one around the barn as a kid and said it was very comfortable because that slot prevented anything from getting "smashed".
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