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post #11 of 142 Old 11-09-2013, 08:18 AM
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"My gf has been dying to take dressage lessons with her TWH. She finally has an instructor come to the house. The instructor tells her she can't work with a gaited horse."

PrincessFluffyBreeches, I am so sorry that your friend experienced this feedback from a traditional dressage instructor. I've bumped into this attitude a couple of times, but most dressage instructors I've encountered have been very encouraging. I would find a new dressage instructor, because dressage is more than trot. Dressage training helps all breeds of horses whether they trot or gait.

If your goal is to improve balance, relaxation, suppleness, engagement, harmony, and rider position, then dressage training is a great way to go.

If your goal is to show at United States Dressage Federation USDF shows, it is required that your horse trots.

But there are USDF schooling dressage shows that are open to gaited dressage using National Walking Horse Association NWHA gaited dressage tests and Friends of Sound Horses FOSH gaited dressage tests. Just ask the schooling show manager if you can use these tests to ride your gaited dressage horse.

I've been applying dressage methods of training with my TWH for 7 years and it has helped develop my horses gaits. And I've shown at dozens of USDF schooling shows using gaited dressage tests. So tell you friend if she is interested in dressage for her gaited horse, don't give up! :)

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I got a question. Is your gf interested in Dressage or dressage?

If Dressage, the instructor is right. If dressage, then maybe a re-think is in order.

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Trainer knew before hand that horse was gaited. My gf's goals are to learn proper riding , proper aids , and proper horse response. That's the goals she told trainer.

Guilherme, I'm not understanding the difference of Dressage or dressage when it comes to basic training/1st level movements.
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"My gf has been dying to take dressage lessons with her TWH. She finally has an instructor come to the house. The instructor tells her she can't work with a gaited horse."

PrincessFluffyBreeches, I am so sorry that your friend experienced this feedback from a traditional dressage instructor. I've bumped into this attitude a couple of times, but most dressage instructors I've encountered have been very encouraging. I would find a new dressage instructor, because dressage is more than trot. Dressage training helps all breeds of horses whether they trot or gait.

If your goal is to improve balance, relaxation, suppleness, engagement, harmony, and rider position, then dressage training is a great way to go.

If your goal is to show at United States Dressage Federation USDF shows, it is required that your horse trots.

But there are USDF schooling dressage shows that are open to gaited dressage using National Walking Horse Association NWHA gaited dressage tests and Friends of Sound Horses FOSH gaited dressage tests. Just ask the schooling show manager if you can use these tests to ride your gaited dressage horse.

I've been applying dressage methods of training with my TWH for 7 years and it has helped develop my horses gaits. And I've shown at dozens of USDF schooling shows using gaited dressage tests. So tell you friend if she is interested in dressage for her gaited horse, don't give up! :)
I so so so agree! She wants to learn proper basics so that she and the horse can communicate better etc. The trainer knew this before hand. I started this thread because my GF this trainer is wonderful because trainer said she likes her horse. I am getting ideas and solid advice here that she may not get what she's looking for with this trainer, and how to have reassurance for what I say to her.
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Trainer knew before hand that horse was gaited. My gf's goals are to learn proper riding , proper aids , and proper horse response. That's the goals she told trainer.

Guilherme, I'm not understanding the difference of Dressage or dressage when it comes to basic training/1st level movements.
It's the usage of the words.
Dressage with a capital D is considered to be the riding discipline - what you see in shows.
Dressage with a lowercase d (dressage) as a word literally means training.

Some people don't see the two to be one in the same, some people do.
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I couldn't see why a gaited horse couldn't do dressage.
I do everything with my gaited horse. He can jump and run barrels and poles. He also does basic dressage.
I have even taught lessons on him. My almost 3 year old rides him as well as my husband.
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post #16 of 142 Old 11-09-2013, 05:56 PM
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Trainer knew before hand that horse was gaited. My gf's goals are to learn proper riding , proper aids , and proper horse response. That's the goals she told trainer.

Guilherme, I'm not understanding the difference of Dressage or dressage when it comes to basic training/1st level movements.
The difference is the capitalization.

You can do a training/first level test in your back yard as much as you want; that's doing dressage. Show up at a USDF recognized event and try that and you'll soon learn "why not."

At the end of the day USDF sets the rules for Dressage. To date they have not accepted any "modified" Dressage (Western, Gaited, etc.). Maybe someday this will change. Until then everybody gets to play by the official rules.

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I dunno. The word "dressage" has always meant *training of horse and rider* to me. Basic means basic. If a gaited horse can do it at a walk, flat walk should be no problem since the gait's the same. But if one plans to compete at upper levels, I think the best is getting a horse that's bred for it.
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I dunno. The word "dressage" has always meant *training of horse and rider* to me. Basic means basic. If a gaited horse can do it at a walk, flat walk should be no problem since the gait's the same. But if one plans to compete at upper levels, I think the best is getting a horse that's bred for it.
Again, it the difference between "Catholic" and "catholic." Or "Orthadox" and "orthadox." Or "Liberal" and "liberal." Or "Conservative" and "conservative."

Capitalization counts.

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This might not happen where you are, but we actually have gaited dressage , where they allow gaits instead of trotting. And btw, that is dressage with a capital d.
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This might not happen where you are, but we actually have gaited dressage , where they allow gaits instead of trotting. And btw, that is dressage with a capital d.
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