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post #11 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 07:09 AM
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I had a standardbred who could do that. Not that speed but she could boogie. I rarely let her open up but she would do it as her gear of choice. She would usually choose this gait at liberty in the pasture too when all the horses were messing around. Nothing harsh about it if you use your head. First ride of spring I would have a little trouble keeping her from racking too fast on the road. When we got to the dirt trails I would let her get it out of her system.

She was a track washout, a free legged pacer but rarely paced under saddle.

My TWH seems to have this gear too. I've seen her do it in the pasture but I haven't asked for it under saddle yet. She's kinda oddly green under saddle and I don't get to ride as much as I like so when I do we work on slow things.
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post #12 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 07:18 AM
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This is just nuts on pavement but I do like this horse. Watch his legs. Odin's horse, Sleipnir was an 8 legged gray.

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post #13 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 08:01 AM
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Speed racking. Popular in some parts of the country and there are timed events.
I personally don't care for it
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post #14 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 08:54 AM
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How is cruel to let a flat shod horse move out at a fast rack? The riders are holding them back. We barrel race, jump, endurance race, and do other things that can wear a horse out. These horses are bred to do this. You can't force them to do it.

Any horse that is allowed to work to the very edge of its ability is likely to incur injuries that will eventually result in lameness. How is speed racking in flat shoes any different than other speed events?

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post #15 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 10:03 AM
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I have a friend with a standardbredxTWH that will move out like that...... it is purely natural and those horses love to move out as much as any barrel horse, just cause you don't understand something is no excuse to start screaming abuse.....

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post #16 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 10:08 AM
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I think it looks cool!
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post #17 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 10:57 AM
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This is very popular with what I refer to as a subclass of people that don't have the money to compete in the Big Lick show world. It is also part and parcel of Racking horse world, which horses are also sored at times....those horses are TWH but are also registered as "Racking Horses" with their own registry.

And sadly? Like the "Big Lick" owners and trainers? These are not good horsemen/women for the most part. Things that would make you cringe or faint...are pretty much the norm with these types.

Care and comfort of the horse are NOT their first thought. They will get together, usually a drunken brouhaha, and "race" their speed rackers.....many of the horses are lame, as you can see by the wonderful videos they put on youbute...that they are so proud of. And most of the adults...and some kids? Have a beer can in their hand. A good sign that this is not a stellar group.

Many of them are heavy handed enough to pull a plow by themselves...and are horrible riders to boot.

The force that these horses are coming down on the ground at this pace is enormous...and very hard on these horses. But by and large the TWH horse is one of the most stoic breeds for can abuse them to no end and the poor things just keep going.

I've seen these people....and would rather hang out with Obama than any one of them. You have no idea until you have been around them, just what they are like.

Another sub group is what they call down South "bush racers" where the morons get out in the middle of field at made track and race TB's....and the care is horrible for those horses too. Think Deliverance...and both of these groups of humans would be right in there as crowd casting too.

And the horses have many leg problems...but again...this whole thing is a spinoff of the Big Lick world....just a poorer version...and much dumber.

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post #18 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 11:14 AM
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I know nothing about this activity, so no comment.......except that the rider in the first video looks like he is about to blow off the back end.

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post #19 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 11:32 AM
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You people are some of the silliest folks I have ever seen in a collection on the internet..... there are piss poor owners in every breed, discipleine, and game of horses. just cause yoiu live around a bunch of jerks doesnt make it true every where. A lame horse doesnt rack at 30MPH+.....

And I know this might suprise a large number of y'all but just cause you see it on YouTube it doesnt necessarily make it so.

It makes me SICK to see you folks lumping groups together cause you know a few idiots or saw some videos on youtube. I personally know a number of folks with racking horses, I also know a few big lick trainers, and I know some folks who grew up "brush racing" and I can assure you I am no more likely to hang out with someone who abuses horses than I am some one who beats their wife and kids.

Sometimes these discussions on gaited boards are driven by heresay and propaganda more so than fact.


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post #20 of 66 Old 11-08-2013, 11:43 AM
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There was a horse at my old barn who would do that! He was in retirement from being a WP horse his whole life due to a leg injury. Some very light trail riding here and there. But when he got fresh he'd do that from one end of the pasture to the other (complete with a few little kicks thrown in). He was a riot to watch, I'd never seen anything like it.

I didn't know it was considered cruel to do speedracking. If an old retired horse does it on his own free time I can't see it being too hard on them. If you use improper training methods of course it is - and I do think that speedracking on concrete would be incredibly hard on their joints and hooves, but look at the other stuff we do with horses. I bet jumping a horse 3 feet onto concrete would be hard on their joints, too. Heck, galloping a horse on concrete would be hard on their joints and feet.

So I guess I have mixed feelings. I can see cruel methods being possibly employed, but so can any other discipline. If it's trained right and using non cruel methods, and they aren't sprint racking their horses on pavement, I guess I don't see an issue, after seeing a gaited horse happily rack around on his own. Moderation is key here.
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