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        11-08-2013, 12:13 PM
      #21
    Super Moderator
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    Originally Posted by jimmyp    
    You people are some of the silliest folks I have ever seen in a collection on the internet..... there are piss poor owners in every breed, discipleine, and game of horses. Just cause yoiu live around a bunch of jerks doesnt make it true every where. A lame horse doesnt rack at 30MPH+.....

    And I know this might suprise a large number of y'all but just cause you see it on YouTube it doesnt necessarily make it so.

    It makes me SICK to see you folks lumping groups together cause you know a few idiots or saw some videos on youtube. I personally know a number of folks with racking horses, I also know a few big lick trainers, and I know some folks who grew up "brush racing" and I can assure you I am no more likely to hang out with someone who abuses horses than I am some one who beats their wife and kids.

    Sometimes these discussions on gaited boards are driven by heresay and propaganda more so than fact.

    Jim

    You are lumping "us" ("you folks") into a group just as much as Palomine lumped speed rackers. I don't consider myself silly. To have concern about a horse that is speed racking down a paved road is not silly.

    I have seen some of the videos Palomine's talking about. So, her example must exist. Whether it is representative of the average speed racker, I couldn't say.

    I marvel at the speed of that horse. I did not post this originally to make any kind of judgement on the human beings who speed rack.
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        11-08-2013, 12:38 PM
      #22
    Yearling
    That speed is amazing! Holy cow I didn't ever think I would see a horse rack that fast!

    I just have to say about your beer comment Palomine: Around here a LOT of riders have a can of beer in their hands while they ride and are some of the nicest people you will meet to people AND horses. We have a couple of TWH's at my barn who speed rack and are taken out quite frequently, they've never taken a lame step and enjoy doing it (on dirt roads though, they've never done it on concrete). Anybody can be cruel, it doesn't mean that EVERY person is though.
         
        11-08-2013, 12:47 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    Jimmyp does have a point in that there are stupid people in every horse discipline...

    That said, I agree with tinyliny that there is nothing wrong with showing concern for something that looks to have some potential at being dangerous.

    I don't now enough about this to say either way. The horse looks content and in shape to me, but I do worry about the surface that he is 'speedracking' (sp?) on. That aside, it looks pretty neat :0
         
        11-08-2013, 01:16 PM
      #24
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    you are lumping "us" ("you folks") into a group just as much as Palomine lumped speed rackers.

    You are absolutely correct, I am lumping "you folks" into a group, because EVERY time someone mentions a TWH doing something that someone doesn't agree with the word soreing is brought in and big lick, and instantly with a couple of key words the torches and pitchforks come out and the vast majority of this "community" goes on a witch hunt bashing a group as a whole.

    Come on, how many of us have been on a trail ride where folks had saddle bags full of beer? How many of us have been to a horse event where there were people drinking? I would say that would be all of us, but them some one decides to get on here and bash a WHOLE group based on some YouTube videos? Seriously?

    Like I said in my original post on this discussion, Just because you don't agree or understand something, that is no reason to start screaming abuse.......

    Jim
         
        11-08-2013, 01:33 PM
      #25
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    Never had a saddlebag full of beer. That's a thought, though.
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        11-08-2013, 02:08 PM
      #26
    Foal
    I have to agree...most horse riders I know like to have an adult beverage(usually beer) while riding/hanging out after roping, or after a playday, or whatever....

    And, I also have to agree about not being abusive since I didn't see anything but a well-cared for and content horse in the video.
         
        11-08-2013, 03:48 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimmyp    
    You are absolutely correct, I am lumping "you folks" into a group, because EVERY time someone mentions a TWH doing something that someone doesn't agree with the word soreing is brought in and big lick, and instantly with a couple of key words the torches and pitchforks come out and the vast majority of this "community" goes on a witch hunt bashing a group as a whole.

    Come on, how many of us have been on a trail ride where folks had saddle bags full of beer? How many of us have been to a horse event where there were people drinking? I would say that would be all of us, but them some one decides to get on here and bash a WHOLE group based on some YouTube videos? Seriously?

    Like I said in my original post on this discussion, Just because you don't agree or understand something, that is no reason to start screaming abuse.......

    Jim
    A saddle bag full of beer, even on a REALLY smooth horse, could be the beginning of a really interesting rodeo (as soon as the first can "cooks off" with POP/SWOOSH). It brings a whole new level of meaning to "hold my beer and watch this!"

    Speed racking is not my thing. Racking on at 30 mph on a paved surface has its own issues.

    I've been on rides with drunks (including while foxhunting). It's also not one of my favorite things.

    As long as folks manage their horses correctly it's unlikely that there will be any injuries (to human or equine). If they don't...

    G.
         
        11-08-2013, 03:53 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Wow. I've never seen anything like that.

    I do cringe at doing that on pavement. When on pavement, I prefer to keep my horse at a walk, and MAYBE a slow jog if I'm in a hurry (chasing a cow, for example). I could never imagine going THAT fast without the horse slipping and falling.
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        11-08-2013, 04:00 PM
      #29
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    Never had a saddlebag full of beer. That's a thought, though.
    Whaaaat! Fun times on the trail.
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        11-08-2013, 05:14 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    I dream of a speed racker. The ones I know around here use roads infrequently. Grave Digger is a world champion , there's not any soring or special shoes. Like Standardbreds in races, they love to go. The speed is built as the horse grows up. It's fun to speed down the road, I have a TWH but let her run full out sometimes on the road and listen to the timing. But it doesn't mean we do it all the time.

    It's not cruel and the wear and tear on the horse is comparable to racing, jumping, eventing, barrel racing, etc.
         

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